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  •  The big difference is that this is (2+ / 0-)
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    completely untraceable. There's control by the government at all. Plus, it's easy. Or it will be.

    If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

    by AoT on Fri May 03, 2013 at 05:48:52 PM PDT

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    •  Control by the government (3+ / 0-)
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      Even under military occupation Stens were manufactured in places as low-tech as a bicycle repair shop. Wikipedia says five man-hours to build the simplest version.

      There was no control by the government at all and it was easy.

      Freedom isn't free. Patriots pay taxes.

      by Dogs are fuzzy on Fri May 03, 2013 at 06:49:54 PM PDT

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      •  ZOMG (2+ / 0-)
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        shut down bicycle shops....

        Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013

        by annieli on Fri May 03, 2013 at 07:59:40 PM PDT

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        •  Seen in "Munich"(register bike pumps, not commies) (0+ / 0-)
          This weapon that you asked about was not fictional and was actually designed by The British in WWII and used in clandestine operations in Europe.It was machined to resemble a bicycle pump and fired a 25 caliber bullet. The weapon was suppressed as you said and fired only one shot at a time. The scene was an accurate depiction, as you saw them unscrew the pump gun, load 1 shell, screw it closed and then smack the back of the pump causing the spring loaded firing pin to strike the primer and fire.(That spring also served to provide tension to keep the pump affixed to the bicycle) As the scene depicted, they had to do this several times due to the anemic nature of the 25 caliber bullet. If the bullet had been a 9mm as you asked, it would have made the need for a more complicated suppressor to deal with a sonic crack. The "Pump gun" you saw was much cruder, simple to make and easy to disassemble and therefore destroy any evidence, as this was a crime that they committed.By going into another country and murdering one of that countries citizens, they would have been liable to prosecution if they had been caught.

          Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013

          by annieli on Fri May 03, 2013 at 09:34:22 PM PDT

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    •  Huh? (1+ / 0-)
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      How is a home-made Sten and more traceable than a printed AR-15?

      Your hate-mail will be graded.

      by PavePusher on Fri May 03, 2013 at 09:18:40 PM PDT

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      •  Theyre both just as untraceable. (1+ / 0-)
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        One doesn't require any machine skill.

        If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

        by AoT on Fri May 03, 2013 at 11:35:25 PM PDT

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        •  Unless the tech is better than communicated... (1+ / 0-)
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          annieli

          that "printed" AR will require assembly and hand-fitting/filing/tuning to operate reliably.  Not to mention some experience with the "printing" process, which is not quite straight plug-n-play yet, if I am reliably informed.

          I think you are exaggerating the requirements of one process and ability of the other.  

          Which is not to say that the tech won't improve and that it is an issue we need to discuss in advance of said improvement.  

          Note also that the level of "machine skill" required is the level of the average home tool kit owner.  Neither tech approach is one that can be eliminated from public hands without going places that will render this country unrecognizable.... and untenable as an experiment in liberty and freedom.

          Your hate-mail will be graded.

          by PavePusher on Sat May 04, 2013 at 09:48:23 AM PDT

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