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  •  No. What was rude was claiming that (0+ / 0-)

    a deity favored your requests over others.  How do you think the families of people who were blown away in a tornado feel when the next door neighbor who was spared claims in the newspaper that "God" saved him (ususally is it expressed as god covering the person with his hand.

    This is what I mean when I say that we give religious ideas, opininons and actions a higher level of respect that I don't think they should have.  

    •  I understand your view. (0+ / 0-)

      I think given the emotional content of the diary, that it was not likely to be well received. And when a person is dealing with that sort of situation, I give them some slack. If I had the chance I would try to comfort any who were unintentionally hurt by the person who believes their prayers were answered.

      Gondwana has always been at war with Laurasia.

      by AaronInSanDiego on Sun May 19, 2013 at 01:00:42 PM PDT

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      •  I think that pointing the arrogance of (0+ / 0-)

        making the claim of receiving divine "blessings" out to people might get them to think first the next time. Those hurt usually don't speak up.   It really is OK to criticize people for thinking they got favors from a god.  It really is OK to criticize religion, its ideas and its activities, etc.  You don't need to cut these people any more slack than you would for any other opinion or claim that is unevidenced, superstitious or just plain makes no sense at all.

        It is your choice, but I feel nothing will change for the non-believers in this world if we don't speak up for ourselves.  Prayer is a superstitious activity. It assumes a power to change the course of nature/events, and relegates the effects of man on his environment/events in a lesser category.  It really bothered me to hear that the medical staff told Vetwife that they saw the whole medical recovery thing as some sort of miracle.  I want my doctors to rely on science, not magical thinking.

        •  From my experience in dealing with (0+ / 0-)

          doctors and nurses, I've come across those kinds of views more often among nurses. I've got an interesting situation myself with a person I've hired as a "behavioral coach", who is a devout Christian and a nurse at a psychiatric hospital. I admit I avoid discussing atheism directly with people who aren't sympathetic, in part because I've encountered a fair amount of prejudice among Christians, and a little among my fellow Jews. So I haven't discussed it with her but made some vague comments about not being particularly spiritually inclined. She hasn't shown disrespect toward that, and I haven't shown disrespect toward her, nor some of her beliefs I view as "woo". The fact is, she is a good-hearted person and she helps me, so I deal with her on that level.

          Gondwana has always been at war with Laurasia.

          by AaronInSanDiego on Sun May 19, 2013 at 01:53:39 PM PDT

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          •  As long as she is not interjecting her "woo" (0+ / 0-)

            (I love that term and use it quite often), into her counseling sessions with clients/patients, then that is fine.  If she is, you have a problem.

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