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  •  So many unneeded county splits (2+ / 0-)
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    And I know you addressed that point, but I don't find it persuasive. Political districts defying political boundaries is like taking politics out of politics.

    The CD-01 jump into Redding doesn't make sense under any CoI reason. The commission split Siskiyou and Napa in their first draft maps and got an earful. Personally, I would have drawn that district into Solano, probably taking in Vallejo.

    CD-32 looks a bit like a racial gerrymander. Not so much that it's a VRA violation, but it won't fly at the commission.

    On CD-18, it wasn't drawn that way because Merced was a VRA county and Modesto is too white to avoid retrogression. Now that it got bailed out, it'll probably change to your configuration in the future.

    It's funny how Garamendi is outside his district. Again.

    23, D, pragmatic progressive (-4.50, -5.18), CA-14.

    by kurykh on Mon May 06, 2013 at 06:38:33 PM PDT

    •  Earful (5+ / 0-)
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      Definitely fits the bill.

      After the 1st draft of the maps were released, I went to the commission's next meeting in the San Francisco area. When I got there, I saw about 50 people who came from American Canyon which is in the southern part of Napa. They were not happy they were placed in the district with Solano County and separated from Napa County.

      Apparently what they did was that the American Canyon people brought a busload of people to the commission meeting, they had brought everyone dinner, they brought the mayor, many councilmembers and the leader of the American Canyon chamber of commerce. They brought along a petition with 1,000 signatures too.

      During the comments session, there was a long line of people who said, "I am X and I am from American Canyon..."
      until the lead commissioner finally said, "Okay, we hear American Canyon loud and clear."

      About half of the people there were from American Canyon. There was a group from Siskiyou too but they were smaller and spoke first while the American Canyon people dominated the 2nd half of the meeting.

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      by Alibguy on Mon May 06, 2013 at 10:29:17 PM PDT

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    •  Yeah, I realize that (1+ / 0-)
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      but counties really don't contain COIs.  Santa Ana and Newport Beach?  South Central LA and the Palos Verdes Peninsula?  Rocklin and Lake Tahoe?  Palm Springs and Riverside?  Oakland and Dublin?  

      CD-1: I don't like taking in Vallejo; it's very Bay Area.
      CD-32: It kind of was one, but I'd assume (from my limited knowledge of the area) that the heavily Asian areas are a COI of some sort.  I didn't draw it out to Walnut or Diamond Bar, though, which would be far more gerrymandered.
      CD-18: Didn't know that.

      20, CA-18 (home), CA-13 (school)
      Socially libertarian, moderate on foreign policy, immigration, and crime, liberal on everything else.
      UC Berkeley; I think I'm in the conservative half of this city. -.4.12, -4.92

      by jncca on Tue May 07, 2013 at 12:35:29 AM PDT

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      •  Just because counties aren't a perfect fit (2+ / 0-)
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        doesn't mean that they should be completely disregarded. Santa Ana and Laguna Niguel have nothing in common, but the difference between Monterey and San Luis Obispo is stark. CoIs bleeding across county lines doesn't mean those lines aren't useful (redistricting-wise and administratively for the voter registrars' offices).

        CD-01: From what I remember, it takes three hours to go from Eureka to Redding. There's a major highway between Napa and Vallejo. Congressional districts are groups of CoIs by necessity due to their size (why else would Lowenthal's CD-47 exist?), and Vallejo isn't particularly married to any other Bay Area region. That's why I would put it in CD-01 despite it having nothing to do with the North Coast.

        CD-32: The commission's first draft included an Alhambra-to-Diamond Bar iteration. It was scrapped because it was too obviously race-based.

        23, D, pragmatic progressive (-4.50, -5.18), CA-14.

        by kurykh on Tue May 07, 2013 at 01:11:59 AM PDT

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        •  Monterey and SLO are very different (0+ / 0-)

          But the southern part of Monterey is like SLO.  I've driven it recently; it gets hilly and not ag-based like the Salinas Valley is.

          CD-1: I guess that's a problem; I didn't think about the highways.  There really just isn't a good way to draw it.

          20, CA-18 (home), CA-13 (school)

          Socially libertarian, moderate on foreign policy, immigration, and crime, liberal on everything else.
          UC Berkeley; I think I'm in the conservative half of this city. -.4.12, -4.92

          by jncca on Tue May 07, 2013 at 12:37:40 PM PDT

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