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  •  Sadly, I'm not a Designer. (8+ / 0-)

    I can put together a very simple web page, but on an amateur basis. I have no work-experience background in that.

    A Production Artist executes a Designer's vision. Sort of makes the thing publishing-friendly. Because Designers just let their imagination run free, but are not necessarily versed in what's smart production in terms of speed, quality, and usability.

    But thank you for thinking about the matter. Much appreciated.


    Actual Democrats is the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats

    by Jim P on Sun May 05, 2013 at 01:54:45 PM PDT

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    •  I do both (design and production), (4+ / 0-)
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      but often that's not enough either.

      curious portal - to a world of paintings, lyric-poems, art writing, and graphic and web design

      by asterkitty on Sun May 05, 2013 at 04:20:53 PM PDT

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    •  I looked at some of your pages (1+ / 0-)
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      and could see the lack of design experience, but what was important to me was that you were doing something where over time you will have made all those mistakes before and then not make them any more.

      Over time you will find better collaboration with designers possible if you try exploring the place where they are coming from and then combine your appreciation of that with what you have learned regarding smart production.

      You emphasize speed, quality and usability. You could think of those as your standards. What would you consider to be the designers standards? How might you use those to your advantage in executing the designers vision?

      If your resume told me more about that process of collaboration and how your experience in doing that could benefit me as a designer, it would certainly grab my imagination.

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      by rktect on Mon May 06, 2013 at 04:10:41 AM PDT

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      •  First, I didn't design anything you saw (0+ / 0-)

        at my link. In fact, most all of them come from top designers. I just execute. I have no talent, interest, or training, in design in any case.

        The way the biz works is there's Design, Editorial, and Production departments. Design is King. They get paid the most and whatever they want, however ugly or stupid or impracticable, that's what you give them.

        Because (but this is changing) Designers are there solely to let their imagination run free, they'll come up with things which would simply cause a real printer to crash, take hours for each page (of many 1,000 pages or more) for a production person to actually make, violates either Standards or best practice, ...

        For instance, a Designer might create a logo which must always appear exactly this far from the opening headline. And the logo has a drop shadow. But on their Design they never accounted for the fact that the headline Editorial supplies runs three lines deep, and the drop shadow (which itself has a half-dozen specs about radius and density and such), given the nature of the software, has a bleed effect on the third line which makes the type look noticeably thicker than the first two lines.

        I solve that problem.

        The Editorial writes the text, but often you get an Editor who creates text and heading styles completely unaccounted for in the Designer's prototype, or who wants to create new combinations of the Design elements to make up their own...

        On any given page, Production has to look at, even on simple pages, 100 or so things which have to be perfect according to various rules of typography and the intent of the Design, and State Standards, and the printer's requirements, and web realities, etc.

        Then the (good) Production artist has to look for internal inconsistencies in the Design, or Editorial offerings, and point them out to the concerned parties.

        And then reconcile the Designer's imagination with the Editor's unexpected requirements with what is "best practice" for production and final users (printers and web).

        Production is about making the Design and Edit ideas actually work, and be perfect.

        So you don't have to sell a Designer in detail. "Excellent Production Artist" itself is code for "can do everything a Designer or Editor needs."


        Actual Democrats is the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats

        by Jim P on Mon May 06, 2013 at 09:58:18 AM PDT

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