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  •  I think those reasons (4+ / 0-)
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    Quicklund, corvo, poco, Brecht

    as I hoped were clear in the diary, was that Israel and the US wish to continue the conflict in Syria at a time when it appears that the Syrian regime has the upper hand. Israel was initially hesitant to take sides in the Syria conflict since Assad has kept the borders quiet for years. But I think Israel has thrown its lot in with the opposition in Syria alongside the US and other NATO allies as has been shown by the two recent attacks on Syria by Israel. I believe that Israelis may think that prolonging the conflict in Syria may be in Israel's best interest.

    •  Maybe (1+ / 0-)
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      Rich in PA

      Or maybe they saw a chance to destroy some missiles.

       Since this attack does little in practical terms to aid the revels, why do you think it was conducted to aid the rebels? Israel and Syria are legally in a state of war. Such clashes have occurred many times over the years when no civil war was brewing.

      More info will come out. I'll not be hardening my conclusions prematurely.

      •  The strike also (2+ / 0-)
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        corvo, Quicklund

        seperately targeted a barracks of elite pro Assad forces.  

        •  Thanks for that info (0+ / 0-)

          If it was in the diary I missed it.

          I still don't see one bombing mission changing the tide of battle though. I doubt Israel is eager to get bogged down in a hot war with Syria. It could also be argued that the one thing which might rally more Syrian and/or regional  support to Assad would be if Israel openly took sides in the Syrian civil war. But I sure don't know anything for sure.

    •  Logically (2+ / 0-)
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      Quicklund, Brecht

      Israel wants an endstate where weapons supply to Hezbollah and support of Hamas are cut off, and continuing acceptance of Israel's occupation of the Golan heights.

      Russia wants continued access and influence.

      Saudi and the Gulf states want to diminish Iranian influence.

      US just wants to interrupt the the next domino of  Al Quaedaism.

      An international consensus could form around support of the FSA.  The FSA could cut a deal to address the major players concerns, except Iran.

      Not sure what the Syrian people want, other than stopping the killing.

      But the risk of a long, protracted civil war like Lebanon's is the worst and most probable outcome.

      •  Just tweaking your list: (6+ / 0-)
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        corvo, whizdom, poco, Brecht, MrJayTee, Pluto

        Russians don't just want continued access and influence. They face their own Islamic problem in Chechnya and other places and don't want to encourage any more of it. They see a secular Syrian regime as a bulwark against that. They also don't want to be boxed in by a US/Gulf axis that comes closer to their borders. Also, Russia and China, after Libya, don't want to go along with US/western policy on regime change, something they have made clear many times at the UN.

        Saudis and the Gulf states want not just to diminish Iranian influence, they want to get rid of both secular and Shia forces in the Levant and Iraq. That's why they're supporting Sunni-Salafi-jihadi-takfiri groups in Syria.

        Given the Russian position, I don't think that there will be a consensus formed around support for the FSA, particularly when we have the recent acknowledgement that there are likely to be no secular forces in Syria and Russia is opposed to Islamic sectarianism.

        But I agree that the risks of a long and protracted war a high, particularly if we get more external involvement in Syrian affairs.

        •  Kerry is in Russia today (0+ / 0-)

          Netanyahu in China.  Might be a UNSC consensus forming.

          We (the US and UK) have been supplying the FSA and Idriss for months, on the condition he renounces Al Nusra.  

          If not the FSA, a negotiated transition with Assad forces, some cosmetic reforms and business as usual after that.

      •  Not sure I agree with this part: (5+ / 0-)
        US just wants to interrupt the the next domino of  Al Quaedaism
        The MIC needs a supply of enemies in order to ensure continued profits.

        Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

        by corvo on Mon May 06, 2013 at 06:36:06 AM PDT

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