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  •  Why do I have a sinking feeling that any reform (3+ / 0-)

    coming out of the U.S. Senate will have huge breaks for employers of the H1-B and undocumented immigrants... and lip service for the non-citizens who've been living and working here for decades?

    “It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing
    he was never reasoned into” - Jonathan Swift

    by jjohnjj on Mon May 06, 2013 at 09:49:30 AM PDT

    •  I predict a flood of layoffs in tech jobs (4+ / 0-)

      followed by new hiring as the illegal visa-overstays apply for those jobs - at half the wages!

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        Possibly not. The reform has in place measures that make companies pay similar wages, and requires them to show that they have labor shortages.

        We only think nothing goes without saying.

        by Hamtree on Mon May 06, 2013 at 10:44:46 AM PDT

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        •  And those protections are bullshit crap (1+ / 0-)
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          and totally useless. Currently they are supposed to pay at the prevailing wage. The problem is that wage limits have huge and totally gaping loopholes which make them ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT.

          The only protection for the American worker is limits on numbers. And this bill doubles, triples certain H-1B #s, and takes the ENTIRE CAP OFF in other areas.

          This is going to DESTROY US HIRING of US STUDENTS.

        •  No it doesn't. (1+ / 0-)
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          Where do you get this stuff?

          Companies do it NOW.  They fire American workers and bring in H-1B workers who take the job for half the money and work slave hours.

          There are no protections for American workers in the bills being considered.

          •  That's because the "prevailing wage" is crap (1+ / 0-)
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            Prevailing wage is based on the job description. If you just lie totally and are totally blatant about getting workers to do things not in the job description, you can get away with totally gutting the wage scale.

            And that is what is happening.

            THe ONLY protection is keeping the #s of H-1Bs, J-1s, L-1s, F-1s, B-1, O-1, etc down. Everything else is bullshit.

            And this bill totally blows the lid off of the #s. Double, triple, the H-1bs. No caps on green cards.

            It's a fucking disaster. It must not pass.

        •  You Have No Idea What You Are Talking About (1+ / 0-)
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          And I wish people would stop calling this 'immigration reform'.

          'Comprehensive Immigration Reform', The Prequel

          I won't be coming home tonight, my generation will put it right - Genesis 9:3

          by superscalar on Mon May 06, 2013 at 11:42:51 AM PDT

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