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  •  None of the military or LE (18+ / 0-)

    people in my family ever set a gun down on any surface unless they were cleaning it or doing repairs.  They unloaded and checked the weapon before they entered the house, then locked the ammo away in one locker and the gun in another before they did anything else, even hug kids. And I as a kid and my kids all hung back until the lockers were closed, locked, and the key placed out of reach. I never saw a gun just lying about, and neither did my children.

    People who do otherwise (and I include LE) are not handling the weapon responsibly.

    I had excellent responsible examples, and so did my children.

    I am so sorry your friend's father was irresponsible with the weapon entrusted to him as a police officer.

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    by Noddy on Mon May 06, 2013 at 10:23:30 AM PDT

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    •  Why is it that responsible gun owners aren't able (8+ / 0-)

      to get other gun owners to follow their teachings? How do you teach responsibility?  

      To insure young drivers learn about the responsibility of driving a car, they must take driver's education, have a probationary period of driving experience, then have to pass a driver's test.  It makes sense to me that a similar kind of test would reduce the number of careless gun handlers.  Yes, there will be exceptions, just like with young drivers, but for the safety of most driver testing is effective.

      •  Responsibility has to be (4+ / 0-)
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        modeled as well as taught.  Teaching responsibility begins at birth, at least it did with my children - first with modeling responsibility, then with expecting it from them by the time they were mobile and increasing as they grew older and able to understand more.

        And the modeling of responsible behavior never ends.

        I would so love to see it where gun owners had to take a gun safety course (not class, but a 6 week course), with a 100 question written test, and practical test by a Gun License examiner and to show proof of gun liability insurance before they could get a gun license, and any gun use violations would show up on their gun records (just as driving violations show up on a driver's license record), and the license could be suspended for shooting while drunk or drugged, or if they shoot at a person (even if they don't hit them, shots fired anywhere other than a gun range or out hunting would count as shooting towards a person), and gun owners would be urged to check their guns into a safe locker (at a bank or a police station or a gunsmith's, perhaps) during incidences of domestic violence or while visiting or vacationing at friends or relatives homes that lack gun safes, and - yeah.

        There's a lot of responsible gun ownership I'd like to see going on, and mostly what I'm seeing is the whole "cold dead hands" meme with no effort to make gun ownership safe and responsible.

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        by Noddy on Mon May 06, 2013 at 12:48:58 PM PDT

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      •  Because they're a small minority. (1+ / 0-)
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        The culture of irresponsibility is the majority, and it is self-reinforcing. Anyone outside their group is not listened to.

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        by nosleep4u on Mon May 06, 2013 at 01:17:37 PM PDT

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