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View Diary: Let's Teach the Controversy of Evolution vs Intelligent Design **Updated with Poll question** (365 comments)

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  •  this is called "begging the question" (0+ / 0-)

    "If there is order then there must be a creator. "

    Really?  Why?

    Where does this "must be" come from?

    Why should I respect this inference any more than I would respect "if there's a sun moving across the sky, then a god is pulling it with his chariot"

    We learn valid rules of inference from observing reality.  We cannot rightly infer a rule of inference that transcends reality.  

    •  My point is that order exist in all things. (0+ / 0-)

      Logically there must be something governing that order (known or unknown at this point in time). Even in the mathematical/scientific world of probabilities and randomness there is an assumed order.  It does not matter how data is arranged or rearranged, 1 must always be 1 no matter where it appears in the data, otherwise, you and I agree, we have chaos.

      I call that something that keeps everything in order God (that term really annoys some); call it Higgs Boson, if that suits.

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