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  •  the big "argument" (4+ / 0-)

    against it i've seen is that it's a burden.  that's total baloney.  for those that do a $million in business.  how hard would that be?  should be fairly simple to implement something on a website that has a record of the sales tax for whatever the zipcode for the billing or shipping address is.  that sales tax that's added should be put into a separate account. and then paid off whenever it's supposed to paid off.  it may cost them a LITTLE bit more, but they've been getting off tax free for like 20 years now haven't they?

    this is a no-brainer.  local business suffer.  from losing business to cheaper online retailers. the states miss out on sales tax revenue as a result.  why should the state of South Dakota help out a business in North Carolina when that business contributes NOTHING to their state?

    The Senate has no guts. The House has no brains.

    by gossamer1234 on Mon May 06, 2013 at 01:44:08 PM PDT

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      Supporters say the bill makes it relatively easy for Internet retailers to comply. States must provide free computer software to help retailers calculate sales taxes, based on where shoppers live. States must also establish a single entity to receive Internet sales tax revenue, so retailers don’t have to send them to individual counties or cities.

      Be the change you want to see in the world. -Gandhi

      by DRo on Mon May 06, 2013 at 01:46:34 PM PDT

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      •  Single entity, But rates vary by address.. (2+ / 0-)
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        For State, County, transit Authority, Amusement district, etc..

        This will be One Large Pain, Count on it..

        •  Everything that can go wrong, will (1+ / 0-)
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          Thankfully we will have software to fix everything, because everyone knows that software is infallible, compatible with every accounting system that business use, never breaks or requires support, and will plug into existing online checkout software with no bugs... ever.

          We have the elite, smart people on our side.

          by fearisthemindkiller on Mon May 06, 2013 at 02:37:05 PM PDT

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          •  By this logic (1+ / 0-)
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            We should basically take no steps on anything every again.

          •  So internet retailers are using 2-entry ledgers? (0+ / 0-)

            Most of internet businesses are all electronic, they don't have double entry accounting ledgers. Of course software has problems, but that's not a reason NOT to do a very simple thing.

            Can taxing rules be complex, sure, but if you're in business, then get down to running your business and stop complaining.

            As for the technical aspects, just about every online checkout software I've seen can deal with sales tax, many are using the Amazon infrastructure, that'll handle it trivially, same with GoDaddy, eBay, and several open source shopping carts.

        •  If it is that complicated... (0+ / 0-)

          ...subscription services will abound that do the computation for the retailer based on shipping address. A pretty simple API and it shouldn't cost too much per transaction as the cost of maintaining the database will be amortized over many sales and many retailers.

      •  must supply software (0+ / 0-)
        States must provide free computer software to help retailers calculate sales taxes, based on where shoppers live.
        They shouldn't leave it to the states to design software. The very last thing you want to deal with is 50 different version of over-legislated lunacy written in 68 different computer languages.
        A single open source standard would be best.

        +++ The law is a weapon used to bludgeon us peasants into submission. It is not to be applied to the monied elite.

        by cybersaur on Mon May 06, 2013 at 04:46:59 PM PDT

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      •  DRo - there are thousands of individual sales (0+ / 0-)

        tax rates. Here in California we have hundreds as each city and county can levy sales taxes.

        I favor this tax for retailers like Amazon but would like to see the House raise the small business exception to $10 million. I don't think that will cost much in lost tax revenue and those over $10 million will have the staff and resources to comply.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Tue May 07, 2013 at 09:45:07 AM PDT

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    •  Will it Increase or Decrease Income Inequality? (1+ / 0-)
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      That's the litmus test that Dems should apply to any legislation impacting tax policy.

      Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project.

      by PatriciaVa on Mon May 06, 2013 at 01:47:09 PM PDT

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    •  Internet business are local businesses. (3+ / 0-)
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      They just use the internet as the means to reach their customers, vs walk bys or signage.  But they are as much a part of local communities as Brick and Mortar.

      And its not the business "getting by tax free" it is the customers.  The customers are going to pay the tax, the business just collect it.

      Also ignored is business will pay tax on items they buy from other business online, stuff like office supplies, paper, software etc.   Those goods they have all been buying tax free and going to be taxed, raising costs of operation which are going to be passed on to customers.

      I'm not against all taxes, I'm against dumb taxes.

      Can we get a tax on financial transactions?  No, because those effect rich people exclusively.  Instead we get greater enforcement on online sales taxes so that items people and business buy every day in order to function become more expensive.

      We have the elite, smart people on our side.

      by fearisthemindkiller on Mon May 06, 2013 at 02:17:01 PM PDT

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