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  •  Yep. Suicide statistics tell a lot. (2+ / 0-)
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    Now, these are, of course, estimates, because we don't have an exact count of attempted suicides and never will. Still, the disparity is astounding. (These stats about the USA).

    Suicides attempted by firearm are 75-85% successful.

    The only method that even comes anywhere close to that is hanging, which is about 40% successful.

    Poisoning? 30. Cutting? Less than 20.

    That's right. If your only access is to a  knife, you still have an 80% chance of surviving. If you have access to a gun? Flip those numbers around.

    Suicide happens more often in our country than homicide, and that has held true for many years. It's the 3rd leading cause of death in teenagers, and 2nd for college aged. And it is estimated that the rate of attempt is twenty-five times as large as the rate of success. That's right, for every succeeded suicide, there are 25 attempted but failed. So, the overall success rate is 4%, but the gun success rate is 80%. That tells me that the number one factor in the success of your suicide attempt, at least in the USA, is access to a firearm.

    Guns DO kill suicidal people. Knives and poisons and running into traffic try to kill suicidal people, and fail miserably.

    "Maybe: it's a vicious little word that could slay me"--Sara Bareilles

    by ChurchofBruce on Tue May 07, 2013 at 09:36:16 AM PDT

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    •  Comparing men and women (1+ / 0-)
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      In America, women make more suicide attempts than men.  But men complete more suicides than women.  The number 1 choice of suicide means for women are drugs and poisons; the number 1 choice of suicide means for men are guns.

      So even tho' women make more suicide attempts than men, women typically chose a less lethal way to kill themselves, and consequently survive their suicide more often than men.  Men choose a more lethal means to try to kill themselves, and are therefore more likely to actually kill themselves.

      It is the gun that makes the difference between who dies and who lives after a suicide attempt.

      "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

      by Hugh Jim Bissell on Tue May 07, 2013 at 10:17:59 AM PDT

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