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  •  There's war, and low tech violence, which means (2+ / 0-)
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    lyvwyr101, shmuelman

    people get mangled and slaughtered, sure. It's a very dark story. But even in its own universe there's a point to the violence meaning moving the story along. I've read all the books, and that's how it's handled there. Even implying cruel actions, which can be scarier (like Cersi's Dr Mengele).

    So you may be right about the producers. And SOME of the fans.

    •  i've read and reread the books (2+ / 0-)
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      OceanDiver, lyvwyr101

      but not as a fan

      it is a horrible addiction and martin is a very creepy man who i never, ever want to be around.

      the violence towards women especially is in the books is very, very sick and his readership is into that violence for sure. the work appeals to a certain kind of adolescent male who wants to dominate women.  that some of them are out and out into torture is obvious.  

      i've been on the boards too, so i have a good idea of what they have to say.

      but knowing what happens to theon is necessary to the story later on and we can't do the flashback in his mind on screen.  that said, they are definitely dragging the torture on in a  titillating way and i have seen people on the boards who already have posted they could watch those scenes all night.

      •  I'm a fan and I am NOT into brutality (5+ / 0-)

        I'm a woman in my early 60's, and while I flinch at a lot of the brutality in the books, especially towards women, I see it as consistent with the world Martin has created.  Take a look at The Tudors if you want to see what brutality really looked like in  actual history - Martin is simply echoing what humans have done to each other over the ages.

        As to your assertion that Martin is "creepy" - well, I read his blog, and I've seen a couple of interviews with him, and he doesn't strike me as creepy at all.  He's a staunch liberal, politically, loves and talks about his wife quite often, and just generally seems like someone I'd definitely enjoy meeting and getting to know.

        You're maligning a lot of people you know nothing about when you say the fans of the books are adolescent males who are into torture.  Seriously.  That's nuts.

        •  not at all (0+ / 0-)

          i have a good handle concerning how diverse that group is and i have a good handle concerning what is really going on in the books and i plan a diary on it.

          i admit i am addicted; that doesn't mean i have to deny what these narratives are doing.

          i don't care a whit what his stated politics are, not a whit.

          as i mentioned, i've been on the boards, actually quite a lot.

          read this:

          •  Maybe 'tis the "boards" (0+ / 0-)

            that are "creepy."

            "I love this goddamn country, and we're going to take it back."

                                                                   -- Saul Alinsky

            by Seneca Doane on Tue May 07, 2013 at 08:28:59 PM PDT

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