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  •  You are correct. (4+ / 0-)
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    Burst fire weapons, as you refer to, are variations of fully automatic weapons to allow for 2-3 round bursts giving the shooter a bit more control. These still fall into the automatic category and my understanding is that they have been generally illegal for manufacture in the US since the 1980's.

    A true gun person such as yourself would know of this distinction, though for my purposes in this diary I didn't get into those finer details. My intended audience was the non-gun person and as such I was generalizing--perhaps to broadly for you. My point was in saying that there are weapons that are already illegal and those that are not.

    •  He knows that, he was just being a dick. nt (1+ / 0-)
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      •  A dick you say ? (1+ / 0-)
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        S F Hippie

        In a diary that talks down to people , tells them to get the facts right , he fails to get the facts right .
        Sorry , if facts matter as this diary tries to say , then facts matter .

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        by indycam on Tue May 07, 2013 at 06:57:34 AM PDT

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        •  You read with a (1+ / 0-)
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          Chip on your shoulder. I wasn't talking down to anyone. And I didn't get the facts wrong. You, an apparently serious gun expert, were not my intended audience--as I stated in the diary. When you wanted to be more specific than I intended my post to be, I completely agreed with you. Would you have liked me to be even more of a kissass or something?

          •  You thanked someone for calling me a dick ? (0+ / 0-)
            He knows that, he was just being a dick.

                 Gracias.

                by talktothemike on Mon May 06, 2013 at 10:17:59 PM PDT

            I wasn't talking down to anyone.
            Sure Sure .
            You are just doing a public service pointing out how people who don't get their terms correct are ruining things .
            Well you fail to get your terms correct , you misinform people so that when they repeat what you have told them to be the truth , they will be seen as someone who doesn't know or say the truth .
            When someone tells me that full auto is illegal , I know that they don't know the subject .
            When someone tells me what full auto is and fails to tell me what full auto really is , I know they don't know the subject .

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            by indycam on Tue May 07, 2013 at 08:39:52 AM PDT

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            •  I tire of being polite to you. (0+ / 0-)

              You have twisted my statements and  misrepresented me too many times in this post. You miss the entire point of my diary.

              Why do you feel the strong need to "strain a gnat and swallow a camel" with your pickiness of the minutia? You gain nothing and lose any support you may have had.

              I guess I am tired of your claiming to be some expert--which you might be--but you are no critical reader and make poor judgments about the point of this diary. You forced this line of comments into the gutter when you could have helped elevate the discussion about gun regulations. In fact, it is exactly people like you who are keeping us from ever gaining in the political sphere. You go on the attack over a definition that is arguable on both sides--and I told you that when you first commented. But my concession to you wasn't enough so you went looking for more minutia to start a new argument about. You are the problem. Do you understand? You are the problem.

              He called you a "dick" because you were acting like one. I thanked him for supporting me. I also criticized him for his name calling and antagonistic approach. Or did you miss that part?

    •  Eh ? (1+ / 0-)
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      My point was in saying that there are weapons that are already illegal and those that are not.
      Full auto guns are not "illegal".
      You are saying things that are not true in a diary that is to inform people of the truth .

      Full auto can be bought sold traded in the USA today .

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      by indycam on Tue May 07, 2013 at 07:10:19 AM PDT

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      •  Yes. How? (1+ / 0-)
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        How restricted are they? Are they available everywhere? They are illegal in general but like eveything else, including things from speeding to manslaughter, there are exceptions. When you answer these questions you realize that my post was accurate.

        •  Full auto is not illegal . (0+ / 0-)

          That's just a basic truth that is not even questionable .
          When you claim "illegal" you make wayne happy ...
          Don't try and ask clever question to try and prove that they are illegal , it will not work and it will just show that you are not someone who should be teaching anyone about guns .

          http://www.dailykos.com/...

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          by indycam on Tue May 07, 2013 at 08:28:01 AM PDT

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          •  Please read (0+ / 0-)

            What I actually wrote:

            "In general, and in most locales, automatic weapons are highly restricted, even illegal." Do you disagree with that?

            I have re-researched the question and feel very confident that the statement I actually wrote--not what you or someone else may think I wrote--is correct.

            Fully automatic weapons require an extensive background check, a special permit, and without those two items they are illegal to own.

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