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  •  it is all very depressing (25+ / 0-)

    but the democratic process needs to play out, slowly and messily, just as the science needs to play out much more swiftly.

    It needs to be politically toxic for Democrats to accept money from those who are poisoning the planet.

    Do the math. #unfrackCal. @RL_Miller

    by RLMiller on Tue May 07, 2013 at 05:30:40 PM PDT

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    •  xaxnar (1+ / 0-)
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      The latest scientific discipline to enter the fray over global warming is geology. And the forecasts from some quarters are dramatic - not only will the earth shake, it will spit fire.

      A number of geologists say glacial melting due to climate change will unleash pent-up pressures in the Earth's crust, causing extreme geological events such as earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanic eruptions.

      A cubic metre of ice weighs nearly a tonne and some glaciers are more than a kilometre thick. When the weight is removed through melting, the suppressed strains and stresses of the underlying rock come to life.

      (from Alan Glazner, a volcano specialist at the University of North Carolina)

      "When you melt glacial ice, several hundred metres to a kilometre thick . . . you've decreased the load on the crust and so you've decreased the pressure holding the volcanic conduits closed.

      "They're cracks, that's how magmas gets to the surface . . . and where they hit the surface, that's where you get a volcano."

      "What's the use of a fine house if you haven't got a tolerable planet to put it on?" Henry David Thoreau

      by wade norris on Wed May 08, 2013 at 10:42:32 AM PDT

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      •  Yes - already worrying about this in Iceland (0+ / 0-)

        "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

        by xaxnar on Wed May 08, 2013 at 11:04:47 AM PDT

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      •  Wouldn't that be a good thing? (0+ / 0-)

        Wouldn't a volcano eruption cool off the planet for a while by throwing ash into the atmosphere that would block the sunlight and cool us down?  I'm not an expert and I have no clue what the undesirable side effects would be, but I have heard people speculate that one way to combat global warming would be to toss a nuke down a volcano, with the goal of generating that specific effect.  

        •  We may get to that point - problem is... (0+ / 0-)

          If we're resorting to measures like that, it will be a pretty clear indication things are really getting bad.

          "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

          by xaxnar on Thu May 09, 2013 at 06:30:40 AM PDT

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    •  "[T]oxic for Democrats to accept money from (1+ / 0-)
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      those who are poisoning the planet" - hahaha!  Good one!

      The elevation of appearance over substance, of celebrity over character, of short term gains over lasting achievement displays a poverty of ambition. It distracts you from what's truly important. - Barack Obama

      by helfenburg on Thu May 09, 2013 at 03:16:12 AM PDT

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