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  •  Sounds like the police (2+ / 0-)
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    JayBat, Bisbonian

    Turned a blind eye, too.

    "We *can* go back to the Dark Ages! The crust of learning and good manners and tolerance is so thin!" -- Sinclair Lewis

    by Nespolo on Tue May 07, 2013 at 03:30:26 PM PDT

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    •  nope. you can't get away with this statement. (12+ / 0-)

      the girls were chained up - no reason to suspect anything amiss.

      the case of the couple who kidnapped jessie dugard comes to mind.  there was nothing that appears suspicious to the police or to neighbors, despite the young woman and her daughters being held prisoner.

      please don't jump to conclusions.  blaming the police for not finding the girls is the flip side of the coin for blaming the police for searching for the boston bombers.

      they have a job to do within the confines of their abilities.

      according to some around here, nothing they do is "right".

      so, please, don't start this.

      EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

      by edrie on Tue May 07, 2013 at 03:57:30 PM PDT

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      •  Well, someone screwed up. (2+ / 0-)
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        I normally fully support the police, don't get me wrong.  But it's being reported today that, a few years ago, "police", at the request of CPS, knocked on the door of the house these women were being kept in, but simply left when no one answered ... and apparently never followed up.  No other details were given in the report I read, but I suspect we'll be hearing a lot more very soon.

        "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

        by Neuroptimalian on Tue May 07, 2013 at 06:25:52 PM PDT

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        •  and what should they have done? break the door (0+ / 0-)

          down without a warrant and without evidence?

          people on this site scream about the over reach of the police, yet that is exactly what you are implying should have been done.  

          it is easy to second guess AFTER the fact - unfortunately, life doesn't always work that way - it isn't always as easy as seen on tv or in the movies.

          EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

          by edrie on Tue May 07, 2013 at 10:53:26 PM PDT

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          •  Ahem. In today's news ... (5+ / 0-)
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            is this disgusting update:

            Neighbors of accused kidnapper Ariel Castro have revealed they saw three naked young girls crawling in the backyard of his house on all fours with dog leashes around their necks and three men controlling them, but amazingly police never responded to their call.

            The shocking revelation is one of a number of stories to have emerged from neighbors who say they reported unusual goings-on at Castro's Seymour Avenue, Cleveland home to local police who either didn't respond or didn't enter the house when they did show up.

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            Israel Lugo, who lives two houses down from Castro, said he heard pounding on some of the doors of the house, which had plastic bags on the windows, in November 2011.

            In that instance police responded, but officers only knocked on the front door and left when no one answered.

            'They walked to the side of the house and then left,' he told USAToday.

            Another neighbor, Nina Samoylicz, who lives three doors down, also reported seeing a naked woman in his backyard two years ago, but police didn't take her seriously when she reported the incident.

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            A third call came from some women who lived in a nearby apartment building.

            The women, who haven't been identified told Lugo they called police because they saw three young girls crawling on all fours naked with dog leashes around their necks. Three men were controlling them in the backyard.

            The women told Lugo they waited two hours but police didn't respond to their calls.

            And by the way, I've never been among those claiming "over reach of the police."  

            "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

            by Neuroptimalian on Tue May 07, 2013 at 11:36:52 PM PDT

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            •  thank you for clearing this up - and i'm glad (2+ / 0-)
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              kurt, Neuroptimalian

              you aren't one of the ftp crowd.  i apologize if i assumed you were.  i know better than to make assumptions without checking.

              that is horrific that the police didn't respond.  looks like someone in the "force" also "made assumptions" - with tragic consequences.

              i hope the neighbors push this issue to hold those who did nothing accountable.

              EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

              by edrie on Wed May 08, 2013 at 12:20:40 AM PDT

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    •  Yeah, they should have busted down (7+ / 0-)

      the doors of every house in Cleveland until they found these women. Since they didn't, they "turned a blind eye". Really, man, there are plenty of fair criticisms of the police. Plenty. We don't have to make shit up that makes no sense.

      •  No, but as Neuroptimalian points out, (2+ / 0-)
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        Woody, FiredUpInCA

        The police were called several times and seem not to have taken the reports seriously.  I am not a police basher by any means, but I have heard several news reports that suggest that they dropped the ball in this case.

        "We *can* go back to the Dark Ages! The crust of learning and good manners and tolerance is so thin!" -- Sinclair Lewis

        by Nespolo on Wed May 08, 2013 at 03:58:41 AM PDT

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