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  •  So long as people want to water-down... (3+ / 0-)
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    WorkerInUSA, Patango, IT Professional

    ...language in the interests of getting a certain policy outcome, I think people who oppose that policy outcome are entitled to hold the line in their characterizations.  The defining characteristic of undocumented immigrants with regard to the current policy discussion is that they're here in violation of law.

    You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

    by Rich in PA on Wed May 08, 2013 at 05:48:16 AM PDT

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    •  Okay, so let's apply that standard evenly. (2+ / 0-)
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      The defining characteristic of undocumented immigrants with regard to the current policy discussion is that they're here in violation of law.
      So violating the law makes one an "illegal," without even a human-descriptive term attached?

      In that case, if you speed while driving, you are an illegal.

      If you bought anything online in 2012 and didn't pay the use tax on your 2012 tax return, you are an illegal.

      If you and your neighbor are sharing a cable bill and wi-fi, you are an illegal.

      If you download music, movies, or software without paying for them, you are an illegal.

      Or is referring to those who violate the law as "illegals" reserved only for brown people?

      "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

      by JamesGG on Wed May 08, 2013 at 07:13:54 AM PDT

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      •  You are making a shallow attempt (1+ / 0-)
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        to inject race bating "brown people" with objecting the influx of more workers into a situation where there are more workers than jobs.

        The reality is that minorities suffer the most when there is an over supply of workers.

        •  No, I'm making an attempt... (0+ / 0-)

          ...to ask why some are singling out undocumented immigrants as "illegals" for breaking the law, rather than applying that sobriquet to all lawbreakers no matter what their offense.

          "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

          by JamesGG on Wed May 08, 2013 at 11:00:18 AM PDT

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