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  •  Um...there are no "permission slips"... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...for stuff students do OUTSIDE of supervised classwork.

    So, just to be clear - if a kid brings dangerous stuff onto school grounds, does something OUTSIDE of supervised classwork, and your child is injured as a result, you're just going to shrug and say "accidents happen"?

    A quick Google search of "school sued negligence" shows parents who are suing schools for:

    * student injuries that occurred in supervised PE class
    * student injuries in supervised playground time
    * failure to stop bullying
    * student injuries sustained in a school bus fight

    ...and that's just the first page of search results.  Do you really think that parents whose kids suffered injuries as a result of some unsupervised/unauthorized 'experiment' like this wouldn't hold the school responsible?

    There's a ton of evidence that suggests otherwise, and that's a BIG factor in the creation of zero-tolerance policies; the schools know that, if they give a kid a 'second chance' and someone gets hurt, they're going to wind up in court.

    The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

    by wesmorgan1 on Fri May 10, 2013 at 10:00:56 AM PDT

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    •  the gists of your posts suggest we really (3+ / 0-)
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      Tonedevil, SilentBrook, fuzzyguy

      should bow to the litigious natures of today's parental units?

      I come from parents who believe in accepting risk from time to time so yes, I would shrug and say "accidents happen". I do that now in adulthood. I would probably suggest what the consequence should be. NOT expulsion. In fact I listed what good consequences should be in BOTH diaries, and markc9503 listed even better ones. Expulsion is the worst possible consequence for an accident like this.

      •  "Good consequences"? (1+ / 0-)
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        Apparently, the only appropriate discipline you suggest is a few days' detention and extra homework.  Furthermore, you go to the point of listing "no prom" as some sort of life-changing event on a par with expulsion, which strikes me as rather silly.

        I've said, all along, that an in-school suspension (which seems to be what most schools call detention these days) would be completely appropriate.  I happen to be raising my kids in a school district with graduated disciplinary measures; if my daughter were placed on in-school suspension today, she'd miss tomorrow night's prom - but wouldn't be expelled.

        It just seems that any disciplinary measure beyond "extra homework" is being ridiculed as excessive - and that isn't the case.

        The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

        by wesmorgan1 on Fri May 10, 2013 at 11:31:47 AM PDT

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        •  So a few days in-school suspension, (3+ / 0-)
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          which may be called detention, would be appropriate when you say it, but when terrypinder calls for detention and a research paper that's letting it slide? There is no one arguing what you keep wanting them to.

          This makes about as much sense as Mike Huckabee on mescaline. - Prodigal 2-6-2008

          by Tonedevil on Fri May 10, 2013 at 11:48:39 AM PDT

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