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  •  Yeah (2+ / 0-)
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    And why would any worker work in Idaho instead of Washington when they are across the street?

    Idaho employers have to pay Washington's minimum wage because their workers will all defect to Washington given half a chance.

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    by Sparhawk on Thu May 09, 2013 at 03:37:36 PM PDT

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    •  Sparhawk - you make a very good point (0+ / 0-)

      If the market clearing price for fast food labor is the minimum wage in Idaho then establishments on both sides of the street would have to pay it.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Thu May 09, 2013 at 11:29:23 PM PDT

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      •  This assumes there is a shortage of labor. (0+ / 0-)

        You're making that assumption without a shred of evidence.

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        by JesseCW on Fri May 10, 2013 at 12:19:26 AM PDT

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        •  Jesse - you are right I have no real data (1+ / 0-)
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          But if the wage differential on one side of the street is more than 20% different it would seem that it would have an impact on the wages paid in WA, unless there was a significant labor surplus.

          "let's talk about that"

          by VClib on Fri May 10, 2013 at 07:01:47 AM PDT

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          •  When most of the potential employees for fast (0+ / 0-)

            food in small towns need two part time jobs to get by, there's just about always a labor shortage.

            If the law allowed you to pay 4 bucks an hour for a job most seniors could do, they'd be lined up around the block in just about every small town in the US right now.

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            by JesseCW on Fri May 10, 2013 at 05:05:42 PM PDT

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            •  This is anecdotal, I'm sorry. (0+ / 0-)

              There was an interview with an Idaho fast food operator who found out that the market-clearing wage was higher than the minimum wage. He'd had to pay over minimum wage in order to get usable employees to work for him.

              Freedom isn't free. Patriots pay taxes.

              by Dogs are fuzzy on Fri May 10, 2013 at 06:25:58 PM PDT

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    •  Because they can't get a job across the street. (0+ / 0-)

      Jobs (sit back and get ready for a shock) aren't unlimited.

      Workers can't "defect" to a side with no jobs.

      If Minimum Wage was this great harmful destructive intrusion on the purity of the beautiful free market, and employers were desperate to avoid it, they'd all just set up business on the ID side of town if they were looking for lowest legal wage and didn't give a crap about quality of worker.

      Wash. Judge Tells Cops To Return Man’s Marijuana Or Be Found In Contempt

      by JesseCW on Fri May 10, 2013 at 12:18:50 AM PDT

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