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  •  The hell it is. Do you know the proposed policy? (2+ / 0-)
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    jpmassar, eXtina

    Merit based acceptance; steeply sliding scale for tuition. It is need-blind admission.

    But beginning in fall 2014, it will charge students based on what the college described as a steeply sliding scale, with those deemed able paying around $20,000, and many others, including those “with the greatest needs,” paying nothing. The change would not apply to undergraduates enrolled as of this fall.
    I understand people can be upset with the change but, IMHO, I don't see class warfare in this policy.
    •  Yes, and so it starts down the slippery slope (1+ / 0-)
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      How can they be completely needs blind while still charging the rich to pay for the less well off? They have to admit more people who can afford the price tag or they won't be able to continue.

      If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

      by AoT on Thu May 09, 2013 at 05:23:11 PM PDT

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      •  Well, I'll assume they have some demographics (1+ / 0-)
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        on their past student bodies. I assume they can extrapolate some kind of average for family and/or student income from student body financials in prior years. And if you mean to imply that the well-heeled don't apply to or attend Cooper, I think you're a tad mistaken.

        As I said, I understand not liking the change but do you have any data that leads you to believe a needs-blind admission policy is not possible? It's what Cooper has always done.

        I think the whole situation is sad and know a few on the teaching side who have struggled with this for the last few years. What would you have them do?? Axe programs??? Reduce the number of students??

        And, just for my own curiosity, do you object to raising taxes on the top 1%? Seems a similar argument on raising revenue by having the highest earners pay more, no? Sorta progressive policy, I think.

      •  well at the rate they're going with their financia (0+ / 0-)

        problems (which you admit they have) they won't be able to accept anyone, I suppose you'd prefer that?

        "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

        by eXtina on Thu May 09, 2013 at 09:05:47 PM PDT

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      •  Who's paying (2+ / 0-)
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        jpmassar, Odysseus

        For the less well off now?

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