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  •  Actually you have hit the nail on the head. (2+ / 0-)
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    The schools are competing to provide amenities, and that is a real contributing factor to the rising costs of higher education.  It has become something of a race to the bottom.  This may not be the case in this instance, but for schools that do charge tuition, continuing to attract full pay students through more and more amenities has definitely been a contributing factor in the increased costs for higher ed.  

    It gets on my nerves, and you know how I am about my nerves...

    by ciganka on Thu May 09, 2013 at 06:55:33 PM PDT

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    •  This is the calculation at my graduate program, (5+ / 0-)
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      also in NYC. I won't say which one, but many can probably guess.

      In recent years the administration has gradually shifted to the MBA class, and of course, they were hungry for growth—in enrollments, and in revenue. Their answers?

      - Simply close departments/majors that weren't profitable
      - Build out or plan to build out expensive new amenities to "draw students"
      - Eliminate "expensive" academic resources
      - Pay themselves some of the highest admin salaries around

      Their goals weren't measured in anything having to do with academics, knowledge, research, inquiry, or the life of the mind. And those are the reasons why universities bother to exist in the first place.

      Instead, their goals were growth and profitability, which is odd for a supposedly not-for-profit institution. Everything was focused on the bottom line; what we had wasn't good enough because it wasn't "growing" or "competing."

      The result? Absolute turmoil. The loss of faculty. The loss of students. The loss of reputation. And what amounts to fraud for entering students that thought they were coming to departments to complete degrees and instead found themselves in the middle of turmoil—in resources, in faculty, in policies—with uncertain futures and in some cases no clear path to a degree as departments were rearranged right under them.

      There was talk of lawsuits and and class action.

      I got caught up in this as a Ph.D. student and actually came close to engaging in this kind of activity myself.

      Higher Ed that follows the corporate model (massively overpaid CEO, slave labor at the bottom, poor quality and poor customer service) needs to be fought tooth and nail. Not only is it unethical and undesirable, but it's detrimental to our society and our future.

      Those here that are talking dollars and cents and taking for granted that a university administration ought to be about high salaries and investing ought to be ashamed of themselves.

      Saying "What were they supposed to do, they lost money, made bad bets, and have to make up the shortfall!?" is willful ideological blindness.

      The point is that they were not supposed to make bets, lose money, or ever have to make up a shortfall. It's not a business, and it should never have been run like one. Like the barons of Wall Street in 2008, they have already committed sins against ethics and society that ought to be punished; handing the problem off to the students is no different from handing the problems of 2008 off to homeowners.

      So many people here asked why Wall Street was getting off scot free while Main Street was punished. Yet they're perfectly happy to post in this thread about how the administrators drawing six or seven figures are in the right despite having failed in their obligations, while the young students involved ought to make up the shortfall.

      Sorry, no. It's not the students' faults any more than it was the homeonwers' faults, and saying "Gosh, what were they supposed to do?! Let's be rational!" is precisely the same as the TBTF argument re: Wall Street.

      Sure, the problems may be unfixable now, just like the economy seems to be. But that doesn't mean that we give those responsible a pass, or that we sit idly by and take the fall for others' sins without protest.

      -9.63, 0.00
      "Liberty" is deaf, dumb, and useless without life itself.

      by nobody at all on Thu May 09, 2013 at 08:10:06 PM PDT

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      •  My all time favorite: (1+ / 0-)
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        When they repeatedly refer to higher ed as "an industry". I guess since they have wrecked all the real industries that they got their greedy hands on, they need to transform education into an industry so they can wreck that, too.

        It gets on my nerves, and you know how I am about my nerves...

        by ciganka on Thu May 09, 2013 at 08:49:00 PM PDT

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