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  •  New York is nothing like the city of my youth, but (5+ / 0-)

    I still love it.  

    Please, New Yorkers, don't let the obnoxious pro-capital phony Quinn be your mayor.

    New York can do far, far better.

    A slower bleed-out is not a sustainable value.

    by MrJayTee on Sat May 11, 2013 at 11:21:31 AM PDT

    •  We're doing our best (3+ / 0-)
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      to make your wish come true. And while we're on the subject, the substance of our current -mayor's- emperor's opinion of the bill:

      This will hurt businesses, and what's more, if you give people five paid sick days a year, they'll take them whether they're sick or not. (paraphrase)
      Sorry I couldn't find the direct quote, which I heard on the radio, but it was, um, memorable. This man clearly has no concept of what it's like to have a job where you can't afford to take a sick day if you won't get paid. Nor has he ever worked in a place where 1/3 of the staff are sick, and passing it around, because they couldn't afford to stay home. I have, though.

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Sat May 11, 2013 at 11:56:28 AM PDT

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      •  And he's an alleged "moderate"! (2+ / 0-)
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        Actually, in the current environment, that IS considered moderation.  Anything that doesn't have pregnant women working 12-hour shifts in a uranium mine is moderation.

        Christine Quinn is the same kind of "moderate".

        A slower bleed-out is not a sustainable value.

        by MrJayTee on Sat May 11, 2013 at 12:09:18 PM PDT

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        •  He's not a moderate (1+ / 0-)
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          across the board. Nor does he fit any common present-day political profile. What he's most like is a Rockefeller Republican of 40 years ago: liberal on social issues, conservative on economic issues, and a toss up on foreign policy.

          On the issues where he's liberal, he's very liberal, notably public health and gun violence. He has absolutely no problem with using the full power of the government to rein in businesses when he thinks they are profiting by making people sick directly, i.e. smoking bans, forcing chain restaurants to post the calorie counts of their menu items, or banning trans-fats in their food.

          But on all other big business issues, he's a completely different person. He's never met a developer or financial-services exec he didn't like, and his goal for NYC (which he has largely achieved) is to make it so safe (and synthetic) that a 5-year-old (tourist) could wander through Times Square at 3 am. Along the way, he's managed to narrow the city's economic base to three legs: real estate, finance, and tourism, with a sideline in film and TV production. Our once-thriving manufacturing sector is essentially extinct, apart from boutique or artisanal production (mainly food and drink, all outer-borough). And he's forced almost all creative activity into the outer boroughs; it's too expensive for creative types (or anyone else who isn't wealthy) to live in Manhattan, and he's also very uncomfortable with the messiness and rudeness that often accompanies creative work.

          If he ever knew, he's long since forgotten what life is like for any average outer-borough, middle-class New Yorker.

          "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

          by sidnora on Sat May 11, 2013 at 12:49:30 PM PDT

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          •  I think that in 40 years' time (0+ / 0-)

            We'll be talking about Bloomberg Democrats the way we now talk about Rockefeller Republicans.  

            It's the tail end of the conservative era; 2008 right before the crisis was its high point.  Nowadays, the only Democrats elected to major offices are fairly conservative, even Obama who I love to death.  

            Rockefeller and his types were back at the tail end of a liberal era.  Back then the only Republicans elected to major offices were fairly liberal, even Nixon who was by no means actually a liberal.

            Conservatives need to realize that their Silent Moral Majority is neither silent, nor moral, nor a majority.

            by nominalize on Mon May 13, 2013 at 12:29:36 AM PDT

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      •  can you imagine (2+ / 0-)
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        people only getting sick for four days, but then taking the last one anyway as some kind of... personal day? it's fucking outrageous!

        sick days are "bad for business", which is just terrible, as opposed to a lack of sick days being bad for workers, which is desirable because you squeeze more productivity out of them by denying them paid time for when they get sick like the filthy plebs they are.

        Banking on the American people to be able to sort all this out and declare the adult in the room the winner is a very big bet. -Digby

        by Boogalord on Sat May 11, 2013 at 12:13:53 PM PDT

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        •  Oh of course, forcing sick people to come to work (2+ / 0-)
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          does so much for increasing productivity and acts as an enormous morale booster.

          "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

          by SueDe on Sat May 11, 2013 at 12:20:32 PM PDT

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