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  •  Persecution or prosecution? (9+ / 0-)

    13?  Really?  The average female body isn't ready for the potential consequences and complications of sexual activity, much less the emotional or mental competency to consent at 13.  You simply don't have the life experience to know what you're getting into at that age.

    •  interesting choice of the word, isn't it? (6+ / 0-)

      Persecution really sets it up that the defiler is the victim and maybe the one needed to be prosecuted is the 13-year-old siren or maybe the parents should be prosecuted ...

      whatever, it is entirely sick and the most important thing:

      The average female body isn't ready for the potential consequences and complications of sexual activity, much less the emotional or mental competency to consent at 13.  You simply don't have the life experience to know what you're getting into at that age.
      yet we have cigarette companies finding ways to influence these immature decision makers... there are studies that show up to 18, the brain doesn't have the experience or maturity for really great decision making.

      anyway... don't get me started.

    •  I was reading a hostorical novel a while ago (5+ / 0-)

      (actually a rare genre for me unless it is one that is hyped on accuracy and uses original sources, etc) about arranged marriages among the nobility in pre-Tudor England.

      Although the marriages (proxy or otherwise) took place when the girls were as young as nine, consummation of the marriage was scrupulously avoided until the late teens when the young women were considered mature enough to handle the rigors of childbirth. Since many of these marriages were constructed to merge dynasties, the health and longevity of the young wife was actually given much consideration and regard.

      “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

      by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Fri May 10, 2013 at 07:23:26 AM PDT

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      •  i didn't know that... (0+ / 0-)
        ...consummation of the marriage was scrupulously avoided until the late teens when the young women were considered mature enough to handle the rigors of childbirth.
        decent.
        •  Was USUALLY scrupulously avoided (3+ / 0-)

          There were exceptions - such as Edmund Tudor, who was so desperate for an heir that he deflowered his twelve-year-old child bride. She bore him a son, all right - but the experience left her unable to have any more children, ever.

          That son grew up to be Henry VII....

          If it's
          Not your body,
          Then it's
          Not your choice
          And it's
          None of your damn business!

          by TheOtherMaven on Fri May 10, 2013 at 09:10:18 AM PDT

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          •  Margaret Tudor was a remarkable woman. (0+ / 0-)

            Despite her traumatic experience with her husband, which did indeed make her unable to have more children, Margaret not only survived him (Edmund Tudor died of plague when she was 7 months pregnant), but also survived 3 subsequent husbands.

            A brilliant scholar, Margaret founded 2 colleges in Cambridge, England. She was instrumental in scheming to bring her only son to the English throne by convincing her then-husband, Earl Stanley, to betray Richard III at Bosforth, thus sending his troops to Henry's cause while still on the battlefield.

            Margaret must have had some affection for Edmund since years after his death, she specified in her will that she was to be buried next to him. Although it may have been that she already saw her son as a future king, and intended for his Tudor parents to be buried together. She lived to the ripe age - for the times - of 68.

            Not trying to derail the topic here, and I certainly adamantly oppose any lowering of the age of consent. I just wanted to indulge my fascination with Margaret and provide a few more details I thought were interesting.

            _Let's dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago: to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world. Let us dedicate ourselves to that, and say a prayer for our country and for our people. Robert Kennedy_

            by bogieshadow on Fri May 10, 2013 at 12:06:29 PM PDT

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