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  •  This is a reference to the airline flights, right? (0+ / 0-)

    Because those are only for business passengers?

    Less and less. We use go-to-meeting. I'll fly to see my grandmother this summer over a weekend, but only if that's ok with everyone here. Sheesh.

    Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies: once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress

    by GoGoGoEverton on Fri May 10, 2013 at 08:52:35 AM PDT

    •  Who the hell said (0+ / 0-)

      you couldn't fly?  Just go an hour earlier...

      just gogogo to another venue and spout your stuff.  And yes, I won't answer your put back.

      •  Nice, drop a snide remark and note you (0+ / 0-)

        won't stick around after. Quite brave of you.

        Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies: once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress

        by GoGoGoEverton on Fri May 10, 2013 at 09:15:13 AM PDT

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    •  Nobody said (6+ / 0-)

      airline flights are ONLY for business passengers.

      But rest assured the flight delays weren't taken care of that fast because of people flying to see their grandparents.

      Hope you have a nice trip.

      Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for thou art crunchy and good with ketchup.

      by Pariah Dog on Fri May 10, 2013 at 09:07:33 AM PDT

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    •  people who need Meals on Wheels don't (4+ / 0-)

      fly to see their grandmother, get it?

      "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

      by eXtina on Fri May 10, 2013 at 09:14:52 AM PDT

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      •  They must not, otherwise airline passengers (0+ / 0-)

        would be getting trashed so often after that decision went through.

        I don't want the sequester any more than you or anyone else does, and yes, it's messed up that everyone seems OK with some cuts and not others, but that doesn't mean that ending the cuts to airline travel is a 'gift to the rich' or 'because of business', and we were talking about backlogs of days, not hours like the poster said above.

        Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies: once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress

        by GoGoGoEverton on Fri May 10, 2013 at 09:26:45 AM PDT

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    •  Why should you, as well as (0+ / 0-)

      the well-to-do who fly frequently, be spared the sequester when millions of poverty-stricken aren't? It's bad policy all 'round, but as Chris Hayes put it, the one aspect of it that almost approached policy virtue was that it put the "shared" into "shared sacrifice", for the first time since 2008.

      Let me repeat that: this is the first time since the Wall Street Meltdown that "shared sacrifice" didn't explicitly mean "screw the poor to serve the rich". Everyone go screwed, and so everyone had an incentive to lean on Congress to stop this shit.

      But that was undone when Congress, upon hearing that the rich were being inconvenienced (and that's all an extra 1-2 hours at the airport is, an inconvenience, your hysterical "request of permission" aside) by the non-discretionary nature of the sequester, instantly and near-unanimously acted to remove the inconvenience, without helping anyone else one dime's worth. If you think that Congress acted to spare air travelers out of the goodness of their hearts, I've got a bridge to sell you.

      Congress acted to spare air travelers because the lobbyists lobbied them to. It's a simple, open-and-shut case of the rich making the rules to suit themselves. If you happen to benefit, they don't care - but the moment your benefit causes them even the tiniest inconvenience, watch out.

      And you're apparently OK with this. Remind me: why, precisely, do you call yourself a "progressive"? You don't act like it - your attitude is classic Republicanism: "Me and mine have ours, and screw you for complaining that you and yours still have nothing!"

      "Violence never requires translation, but it often causes deafness." - Bareesh the Hutt.

      by Australian2 on Fri May 10, 2013 at 10:32:39 AM PDT

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      •  I'm not apparently OK with sequester cuts. (0+ / 0-)

        But I'm also not OK with vilifying those who were spared, just because everyone wasn't. I highly doubt you'd be outraged if the Meals-on-Wheels program support was re-instituted while the rest stayed cut.

        Vilifying people you don't have something in common with: an attitude that is classic Republicanism. Why, precisely, do you call yourself a 'progressive'?

        And you're apparently OK with this. Remind me: why, precisely, do you call yourself a "progressive"? You don't act like it - your attitude is classic Republicanism:

        Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies: once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress

        by GoGoGoEverton on Fri May 10, 2013 at 11:00:08 AM PDT

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        •  The people who benefit from Meals on Wheels (0+ / 0-)

          don't spend millions of dollars every year on lobbying - that's the difference.

          False equivalence is false.

          "Violence never requires translation, but it often causes deafness." - Bareesh the Hutt.

          by Australian2 on Fri May 10, 2013 at 11:09:55 AM PDT

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