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  •  West Virginia is the worst (2+ / 0-)
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    Ages 30 and up, just 53.1% bothered to vote. (Minnesota was 77.2%, for comparison's sake.)

    That state just seems to be getting more distrustful of all politicians each passing year. It also seems to be getting more backward-thinking.

    •  my son voted in Hawaii.... (0+ / 0-)


      But in WV, honestly, I am not sure it is worth encouraging folks to vote in many places.  This is not an informed electorate.

      You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

      by murrayewv on Sat May 11, 2013 at 10:39:47 AM PDT

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    •  What is the economic story Democrats have (0+ / 0-)

      for people in West Virginia? Locals think that we hate coal, and that we hate them. Obama lost the Democratic primary in WV last year to a convicted felon in a Federal prison.

      Also, who is there to vote for when the coal barons control everything?

      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Sat May 11, 2013 at 11:18:40 AM PDT

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      •  Right. (0+ / 0-)

        The party has to make a clear argument about how coal spreads poverty and death in mining regions, and for the need to create a new energy economy in coal country. That won't get a positive response right away. It will take at least two election cycles of heated debates and probable losses before more people accept reality. But, the future for WV is only going to get worse until more voters and political leaders deal with the reality that clinging to coal will only keep the state poor.

        Instead, Obama tip-toed around the issue in '12 by defensively pretending there's no war on coal. So, he lost young voters who wanted Obama to do more about climate change, AND he lost a lot of coal voters who know Obama isn't pro-coal. That's a half-assed strategy that won't continue to work in future elections.

        •  Gotta provide some of those jobs... (2+ / 0-)
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          ...first so that they can actually see what could happen. Part of the problem is that the best-paying jobs in renewables require more education than equally paid jobs in the coal industry. Breaking out of that political conundrum will take some pondering.

          Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

          by Meteor Blades on Sat May 11, 2013 at 12:26:54 PM PDT

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          •  Coal country needs a bailout. (1+ / 0-)
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            Additionally, many of those green jobs aren't going to coal regions because the politicians and economic development officials aren't trying to attract anything other than more coal jobs. So, we can't wait or count on local action to bring those jobs to mining regions. It will take a federal bailout of coal country that targets clean energy jobs specifically to impoverished coal mining regions. It will have to be done in spite of, and sometimes over the objections, of coal country leaders who are holding their regions back.
            Next week I'll finish and post a blog on this.

            •  Eager to see it. n/t (0+ / 0-)

              Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

              by Meteor Blades on Sat May 11, 2013 at 02:28:41 PM PDT

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            •  Again, I have to emphasize how important local (0+ / 0-)

              Elections are. Until we break the hold of local office holders, W. VA and other retro states will keep progressive laws from being passed.

              First and foremost we have to convince the locals that we can replace the coal jobs with other living wage jobs.

              That's the only way to really implement Change!

              It’s the Supreme Court, stupid! Followed by: It's always the Supreme Court! Progressives will win only when we convince a majority that they, too, are Progressive.

              by auapplemac on Sun May 12, 2013 at 03:22:10 AM PDT

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