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  •  Strange replies that have nothing to do with (2+ / 0-)
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    Eric K, nuclear winter solstice

    the problem of nuclear waste. Not one intelligent thought behind the idiotic knee-jerk replies.

    To thine ownself be true

    by Agathena on Sat May 11, 2013 at 08:53:19 AM PDT

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    •  Whenever we try.. (3+ / 0-)

      to come up with solutions, we are bogged down in the minutia of self-proclaimed and paid experts who fog the issue to a stalemate. The obvious fact is: nuclear waste needs to be safely stored for millions of years SOMEWHERE. Let us start there, and work toward a solution before "temporary storage within reactor complexes" destroys us. The situation is that dire.

      Stainless steel is pretty good, glass poured within stainless steel  containers is even better and above ground is fine if you build the concrete sturdy enough and thick enough and you can inspect inside the buildings. Then it just becomes a task of rebuilding the concrete bunkers every few thousand years or so. There is no good place, but there are better and worse places for stability and low population.

      I personally cannot think of a better jobs program for the present to save the future.

      Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

      by OregonOak on Sat May 11, 2013 at 09:05:54 AM PDT

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      •  Some good ideas (1+ / 0-)
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        CharlieHipHop

        Storage has to be away from earthquake zones and is there such a place?

        Shouldn't there be a moratorium on new plants until there is a real solution to the problem of nuclear waste?

        How much stuff can we put in the earth? The useless carbon capture scheme is putting tons of CO2 in the earth and the fracking industry is injecting tons of toxic waste water deep in the earth, how much more can "the earth" take?

        To thine ownself be true

        by Agathena on Sat May 11, 2013 at 01:01:37 PM PDT

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      •  Here's the problem: (0+ / 0-)

        Nothing build by humans has ever lasted longer than a few thousand years.  The Sphinx is maybe 40,000 years old according to some, but it's not in its original condition.  

        Now we need to engineer something that will last a thousand times longer, and we need to hope that the planet doesn't change much for the next million years (no meteors, no major earthquakes or continental shifts, etc.).

        Storing this stuff is not a viable option; no social or engineered solutions will last long enough, and the stuff will eventually disperse into the biosphere and kill everything (how I wish that were hyperbole!).  We need to figure out a way to neutralize it.

        The meek shall inherit the Earth that the stupid destroyed.

        by CharlieHipHop on Sat May 11, 2013 at 04:01:29 PM PDT

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