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  •  That seems like an awfully extreme position. (9+ / 0-)

    I'll say that a lot of people--myself included--find great value in getting degrees. A quick reducto ad absurdum: Would you tell a budding neuroscientist that she shouldn't get a degree? That there is no value in it?

    I notice that you said in your getting a degree. I don't know you, so perhaps you're right. But, I sincerely doubt that your claim about no value generalizes.

    "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something." -the last words of Pancho Villa

    by Shef on Fri May 10, 2013 at 09:56:47 PM PDT

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    •  I'd show them student loan default rates. (0+ / 0-)

      As well as how wages have stagnated.

      I'd tell them to never get a student loan and if they still can go to school, millionaires might make it, go for it. But don't get a loan when the job to pay it off is not in hand and rock solid, another thing of the past.

      •  I teach at a university in WV.... (2+ / 0-)
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        where people are poor but college is a bargain.  My students get good jobs or go on to professional schools, but they are in STEM fields generally.

        While it may not be worth it for all to attend college, I can see the difference it makes for rural kids to leave the holler and family and open their eyes to a bigger world.

        Some of the best barains are state schools, often because of lower tuition and fees, and committed faculty who get students really engaged in research and activities.

        Your results may vary, but I also think the arts can be important as well for many.  My daughter just finished her PhD and got a job paying in her field in design and my son is finishing his MFA in theatre and looking for work.  They have loans to pay off, but they are smart people with a future.

        You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

        by murrayewv on Sat May 11, 2013 at 10:59:57 AM PDT

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