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  •  A lot of it is burnout. People are tired. (12+ / 0-)

    No, people are exhausted, dispirited, horrified. I agree that it's time to pick ourselves up and do something. But it's easy to click a link and not as easy to get up and do something.

    But hey, I'll join you, if you're willing to expand your analysis of Congress.  Don't just look into carrots, look into sticks.  I'd be surprised if every attempt at graft did not include a dozen perceived and implied threats--and maybe even one or two explicit threats.

    You need to look at the problem of government corruption in both ways. Otherwise the analysis will be incomplete and actions taken based on it will be far less effective.

    If it were me, I'd start by looking into the people who are supposed to be on our side. They are the largest Democratic caucus in the House. Why do they have so little power?

    "When people spin this in partisan terms to obfuscate the truth, it does a real disservice to normal people not in the big club in DC. Many of them will be hurting...That is why I write."--priceman

    by SouthernLiberalinMD on Sat May 11, 2013 at 01:08:56 PM PDT

    •  It's because we are spinning our wheels, in a (9+ / 0-)

      sense.  We put trust on individuals and organizations whom we believe are the real thing, and we follow their leads, but often times they are too co-opted by the "establishment" and lured away (i.e., Van Jones now working for CNN).

      •  Well, the first thing is to figure out (4+ / 0-)
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        if they are the real thing/on our side.

        What I'm suggesting is that there may be a systemic problem in DC that stymies even many people who are allies, or would like to be. I'm suggesting there's more to this than the individual moral character of legislators.

        I mean, Donna Edwards has been a solid progressive, but look at this:

        Donna helps Lockheed Martin with PR

        I'm not saying that there aren't corporations and FIRE-sector baddies waving large sums of money at Congress. But I am saying that there's more pressures involved than that. My guess is that two of the biggest are threats of character assassination and economic threats to the Congressman/woman's district and/or the nation.

         We need to understand those pressures if we're going to have any electoral or legislative strategy--IOW, if we intend to create change by influencing government.

        "When people spin this in partisan terms to obfuscate the truth, it does a real disservice to normal people not in the big club in DC. Many of them will be hurting...That is why I write."--priceman

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Sat May 11, 2013 at 01:37:30 PM PDT

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      •  And I'd like to get people like Jeff Connaughton (2+ / 0-)
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        who wrote Payoff, and Mike Lofgren, who wrote The Party Is Over to contribute information. First it would be good to read their books, of course, which I keep meaning to do!

        "When people spin this in partisan terms to obfuscate the truth, it does a real disservice to normal people not in the big club in DC. Many of them will be hurting...That is why I write."--priceman

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Sat May 11, 2013 at 01:40:20 PM PDT

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    •  it's also email burnout. i confess - i now delete (8+ / 0-)

      tons of political "requests" for petitions because my email inbox is flooded by many organizations with the same petition or issue.

      my gut feeling is this is driving people away from participating, in some respects.

      i open my inbox and want to just scream STOP!

      i've unsubscribed to a number of "lesser" sights and may start doing the same for the larger ones.  it is the indiscriminate nature of the "sign this" requests that is getting to me.

      i still sign those put out by the politicians - i realize this gives them "cover" in congress to say that "x" number of constituents blah blah blah ... but the rest, especially with the "send money" requests just remind me of how impoverished i am right now even if i WANT to contribute but can't.

      there's gotta be a better way... glad ray wrote the diary.

      EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

      by edrie on Sat May 11, 2013 at 01:36:19 PM PDT

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