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  •  Tesla ranger service... (6+ / 0-)

    Tesla knows that people don't always live near service centers, so they send the service center TO YOU.  

    They provide "Tesla Rangers" that will come to your work or home and work on the car there.  If it needs more work, they recently announced that they'll provide a Model S Perf (top of the line) loaner and valet the car to you.

    You are correct in likely needing the 85 Kwh version if you drive more than 150 miles a day.  85 Kwh would get 200 miles a day easily, 240 if you range charge, 270 if you drive 55-60 on the freeway.  That's including using the AC and stereo, etc.

    If you are paying $.30 per Kwh like I am, then you are looking at equivalent to ~40 miles per gallon in fuel costs.   As gas gets more expensive vs electricity the ratio improves, obviously.

    You do pay more for these things, however.  $2500 for four years of Ranger Service.  The yearly or 12500 mile checkups are included in that, at least for the first four years.  Since I live more than 100 miles from a service center, I got that service plan.

    The ATS or ELRs are still great cars.  But test drive a Model S and you'll fall in love.  

    •  slight correction and FYI (5+ / 0-)

      $2500 is for ranger service, $1900 is for regular service at the local service center.  4 years or 50000 miles.  For many cars this is included up to 3 years or so, but Tesla decided to charge for it.  

      Expectation is these charges will be standard for life of car, but that isn't in stone.

    •  Wow. This is more detailed info on the Tesla (3+ / 0-)

      than I've pulled together.  I take it, you have a Tesla?  You have my respect and my envy.

      This makes it sound as though I might be able to do without the 85 Kwh.  I drive probably about 100 miles a day usually.  At times, it would go beyond the 150.  I'd have no way to charge it at any time during the day.

      What about winter, though?  I understand the range is significantly reduced when it's cold.  It's cold here at least 6 months of the year - although it feels more like 9.  And of those, at least 3 or more are very cold.  Also, I need at least FWD and AWD is far better.  I think (not sure) that Tesla is just RWD yet, right?

      I would kick myself hard if I bought something else and then discovered that I could have had a Tesla.  Any suggestions on where I can get the more detailed info you seem to have?

      "If you trust you are not critical; if you are critical you do not trust" by our own Dauphin

      by gustynpip on Sun May 12, 2013 at 11:32:46 AM PDT

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      •  Yup, my wife's car is a Tesla 85Kwh Perf (5+ / 0-)

        The range is limited when running heat more than AC.  The Canadian Tesla owners do report significant range loss.  If sometimes you got 150 miles, then you may sweat it just a bit and need to slow down to make the range (air resistance is the largest factor on efficiency).

        With the 85Kwh car we regularly go 200-220 miles without worrying about anything.  

        Tesla is RWD.  I've seen people argue FWD vs AWD vs RWD and frankly that's a problem because of transmissions.  The Tesla is instant, so I don't see the difficulty.

        Here's a couple Youtube links.  I couldn't find the one in Norway or Sweden with a Roadster (highly entertaining), but the air suspension (raise the car's height) and 19" snow tires put it with the best IMHO.

      •  Suggestion for more info (3+ / 0-)
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        AnnCetera, FarWestGirl, gustynpip

        Fantastic community and mostly level headed.  Lots of 'car guys' there with tons of real world experience.  I've learned a lot from the site.

        It was started by a Tesla Roadster owner and has a lot of traffic now.  Not an official part of Tesla Motors, but sometimes people who work for Tesla will respond to threads, etc.  

    •  Oh, and what is range charging? (1+ / 0-)
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      "If you trust you are not critical; if you are critical you do not trust" by our own Dauphin

      by gustynpip on Sun May 12, 2013 at 11:33:59 AM PDT

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      •  Range Charging (2+ / 0-)
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        The charging normally stops at 90% of battery capacity because it was thought to increase longevity of the batteries.  Li-ion batteries prefer not to be fully charged or depleted, according to the experts.  

        So for a 85Kwh car you get 240 rated miles on a 'standard' charge (90%) and 265 miles on a 'range' charge (100%).  I get rated miles when driving 65mph on the freeway without the AC or heat (seat heaters are ok tho).  

        However there are rumors that Tesla is comfortable enough with the ways the batteries are performing now that they don't really make a distinction anymore other than recommending something like 'standard' charge if you are leaving it garaged for a while.

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