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  •  Even if -- (7+ / 0-)

    perhaps especially if -- you supported the regime change operation, you should feel that the lack of focus on the violence and chaos there is shameful.

    •  I am not trying to be combative here. . . (6+ / 0-)

      But, I would like to ask, what specific "focus" would you recommend or would like to see?

      There does seem to be a lot of "lose-lose" propositions out there. If one intervenes - such as Afghanistan, Iraq (2 times) Somalia, the Balkans - the price that is paid is lives, years of involvement and life long disability. If one doesn't intervene - such as Rwanda, Egypt, Syria, Iran to a lesser extent then you lose by "allowing" violence and chaos.

      So far, Obama has not started a war. After the petro-imperialism of Bush, I take that as the default responsible choice.

      Short of putting troops on the ground, what would you have them do? And, I abhor the idea of a violent, chaotic Libya as much as anyone, if any citizens in the world have suffered more than them - point them out. I just am not sure there is an effective answer.

      Blessed are the peacemakers, the poor, the meek and the sick. Message to Repug Fundies: "DO you really wonder "what would Jesus do?" I didn't think so.

      by 4CasandChlo on Mon May 13, 2013 at 12:10:00 PM PDT

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      •  That's a hard question to answer because (3+ / 0-)
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        the discussion and reporting about Libya is so slight. We know that the country faces a threat from militias and, relatedly, Islamic militants. Are the actions of the United States and other western national increasing or decreasing that threat? We know that the U.S. is involved in CT operations there, including the effort to bring the Benghazi killers "to justice," and that drones have never stopped flying there, and generally, US CT operations tend to strengthen, not weaken, extremists, so this is cause for concern. Likewise, multinational corporations are doing their best to benefit from Qaddafi's downfall and extract Libyans' wealth. Point being, we we're all for Libyans during their uprising; we should be for them now.

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