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  •  Part of the need for a basic income (2+ / 0-)
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    psyched, i know

    is the lack of good jobs out there. We've got an economy where we're all reliant on having a job for our money (and health insurance for the most part), but there aren't enough jobs out there. It's actually in the economic interest of businesses to keep their labor costs low, and with improvements in technology they will be able to do more work with less and less workers.

    Government isn't filling in the gap, in fact most of the job losses in the last 2 years have come from the loss of state local and federal jobs.

    We've got a situation where we all need jobs, but it's nobody's responsibility to ensure that there are enough jobs or that the jobs are good jobs. We're all at the mercy of the market, and we're all in competition with each other for fewer and fewer jobs. It just isn't logical.

    Providing a basic income would stimulate the free market economy, creating jobs, while also lessening our desperation for those jobs. Some folks would work less, freeing up some jobs for the unemployed. I think the net result would be more and better jobs, and less desperation for them.

    "Imagine all the people, sharing all the world." --John Lennon. Follow me @riseupeconomics

    by RiseUpEconomics on Mon May 13, 2013 at 02:28:46 PM PDT

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    •  If those assholes weer more afraid of commoners (1+ / 0-)
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      things would be different.

      Americans are fabulously docile and tolerant.

      Few here like this idea but I don;t care what they like: we're getting fucked by continuing to politely tolerate this artificial crisis.

      •  Well, they're not, and they aren't. (2+ / 0-)
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        RiseUpEconomics, psyched

        Part of the problem is that the crisis in jobs isn't artificial, or at least not entirely. Over the last 50 years it's taken fewer and fewer people to produce the goods and services we use.

        If we put everybody we could to work doing infrastructure repair and rebuilding, and brought back all the outsourced jobs from overseas (supposing we're willing to wreck a few other economies in the process), we'd still be short a few million full time jobs, because there simply isn't the need for capable hands in most industries. And the trend toward computerization and automation isn't stopping, even though it's slowed. Even if, somehow, we could put every willing adult to work tomorrow, I think it would be a temporary measure.

        This isn't saying companies aren't taking gross advantage of the situation, or that there aren't idiots out there who are supremely shortsighted about hiring, compensation, etc.. Or that we don't have primary problems with greed and income stratification. Only that the problem of real, available work is a factor in itself.

        At least half the future I've been expecting hasn't gotten here yet. Sigh.... (Yes, there's gender bias in my name; no, I wasn't thinking about it when I signed up. My apologies.)

        by serendipityisabitch on Mon May 13, 2013 at 04:35:33 PM PDT

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