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  •  With that amount of heirarchy (4+ / 0-)

    kicking out the leadership without destroying the organization just isn't going to happen. It's been built up in a manner that removes accountability from the equation. There's certainly punishment for those who have the temerity to resist, or to simply be poor. The parallels between ends of the socialist project and the realities of the neoliberal project seem a bit to close for me to believe it's really just one big coincidence. There really is a lot of power in the socialism model and what the current stage of capitalism has done is used a model of sharing ownership to eliminate accountability instead of eliminating scarcity.

    The primary problem with the view that we've got this all set up correctly and we just need to change the leadership is that the way we produce things is not sustainable and it is not possible to do it without oppressing workers. As a system it necessitates poor wages and poor working conditions. Not because the leadership is bad, but because that is the nature of the system.

    It is not, unfortunately, just a matter of getting the right people in there to fix things, it's a matter of overhauling the entire system from the ground up.

    If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

    by AoT on Tue May 14, 2013 at 12:08:04 PM PDT

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    •  well, all the officers are already elected by the (0+ / 0-)

      stockholders (or hired by those who are elected).

      So we make every US citizen a one-share stockholder.  ;)

      Sure, the structure will have to be modified--it is not really democratic now, and as you say, the aim right now is profit, not production.  

      But I'm still willing to sit back and let them keep doing our structural work for us (and make most of the mistakes)---then take over the whole kit and kaboodle.

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