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  •  We stepped through the looking-glass years ago. (16+ / 0-)

    Too many sat silent while the Bush administration trampled rights in the name of keeping America safe and as a lot of people warned back then—once goernment's get power they do not like to relinquish it.

    If they can, they will. Just imagine a Ted Cruz with this kind of power.

    "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

    by sceptical observer on Mon May 13, 2013 at 03:02:12 PM PDT

    •  government's n/t (1+ / 0-)
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      "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

      by sceptical observer on Mon May 13, 2013 at 03:06:42 PM PDT

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    •  It's being done again, today (6+ / 0-)

      No this very site.  The blind partisans here aren't outraged at all the IRS intimidated and stifled political speech through profiling.  Then, in order to be approved for tax exempt status, they demanded the groups reveal their donor lists and volunteers.  Nope.  The Kos-kids think its fine, cause fuck the tea party.   Except when its us next time.

      •  IMO, dkos is one of the least monolithic sites (6+ / 0-)
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        on the internet. Given that the expressed purpose of this site is to elect more and better Democrats, within that structure there are a host of opinions.

        IIRC, Kos-kids, a term I consider derogatory btw, have a mean age around 39.

        "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

        by sceptical observer on Mon May 13, 2013 at 03:42:17 PM PDT

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      •  Where are You Reading? I'm Seeing Constant (4+ / 0-)

        outrage at excesses and negligence of the Admin. There are some blind partisans here but it's not even a majority.

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Mon May 13, 2013 at 04:05:58 PM PDT

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      •  You seem to be incredibly full of it (7+ / 0-)
        ...intimidated and stifled political speech through profiling...
        THOUSANDS of purported 501C4's show up suddenly claiming to be "public service/interest" organizations, the IRS asks them to answer a few questions, like they're SUPPOSED TO, and now everyone is shitting themselves with faux concern over their "rights"

        I don't believe the hype about this nonsense for one minute, especially since not one of the organizations lost their nonprofit/public interest status afterwards.

        When there are suddenly three thousand new non=profits appearing magically from nowhere, and they all say "Tea Party" in their name, does that then inoculate them from scrutiny?

        I don't think so.

        "Ronald Reagan is DEAD! His policies live on but we're doing something about THAT!"

        by leftykook on Mon May 13, 2013 at 04:37:17 PM PDT

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        •  What disgusted me is Obama quickly joined them (2+ / 0-)
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          THOUSANDS of purported 501C4's show up suddenly claiming to be "public service/interest" organizations, the IRS asks them to answer a few questions, like they're SUPPOSED TO, and now everyone is shitting themselves with faux concern over their "rights"

          I don't believe the hype about this nonsense for one minute, especially since not one of the organizations lost their nonprofit/public interest status afterwards.

          The Google News collection of headlines this morning had almost the same headline from six news orgs with the very same spin.  Damn the IRS.... for doing their job.

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          by divineorder on Mon May 13, 2013 at 04:56:13 PM PDT

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        •  You don't pick out a tax payer for additional (1+ / 0-)
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          scrutiny because of their politics. Or do you?  Make your case that just having Tea Party in your name means you should recieve more scrutiny.  Why?

          Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

          by thestructureguy on Mon May 13, 2013 at 10:17:34 PM PDT

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          •  Best interest of the tea partiers. (0+ / 0-)

            One reason, and a very good reason as that, is to make sure tea partiers aren't being swindled into giving money to a fake "tea party" group, or that a fake "tea party" group isn't being used for crooked reasons. It seems pretty obvious to me that during the height of the tea party movement that if one wanted to make a fake and fraudulent non-profit organization, that they would name it a tea party group so as to hide in the multitudes.

          •  the purpose of the 501C4 IS NOT politics... (0+ / 0-)

            ...and the whole purpose of these organizations is to wield political power, they represent a fraudulent use of such a tax-exempt classification.

            Merely asking them to prove they meet the requirements of the law is hardly a violation of their rights.

            "Ronald Reagan is DEAD! His policies live on but we're doing something about THAT!"

            by leftykook on Tue May 14, 2013 at 05:02:04 AM PDT

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      •  Some - not all (2+ / 0-)
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        they're entitled to their opinion.  This administration is showing a troubling pattern....we'll see but this is all starting to stink real bad.

        The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government. - Thomas Jefferson

        by ctexrep on Mon May 13, 2013 at 06:42:21 PM PDT

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    •  Were you even there? (1+ / 0-)
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      Too many sat silent while the Bush administration trampled rights in the name of keeping America safe ...
      We hammered the shit out of Dubya, fer cryin out loud. How in the hell do you think he went from 90% approval to dead-man-walking mid-20s?
      •  His numbers went down because of Iraq (0+ / 0-)

        and the economy. Not because he politicized the entire government, issued warrantless wiretaps or abused NSLs.

        "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

        by sceptical observer on Mon May 13, 2013 at 05:45:10 PM PDT

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        •  And guess who hammered him on Iraq? (1+ / 0-)
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          Us. We.

          We of the faithful opposition. Liberals. The Left. Dirty Hippies.

          We've been at it for a while, ya know. You may of heard of us.

          •  "Too many sat silent" (0+ / 0-)

            isn't a reference to dkos.

            If it was, I would have written too many here.

            "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

            by sceptical observer on Mon May 13, 2013 at 06:37:38 PM PDT

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