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  •  That makes as much sense as... (1+ / 0-)
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    Calamity Jean

    ...suggesting that the fact that "our" government kills innocent people in drone strikes would to any degree validate a choice on your part to commit murder.
    What Al Gore, or anyone else on the planet, does is utterly irrelevant to the choices you make, and the moral responsibility you bear both for the choices, and for the consequences thereof.
    And no matter how small the incremental consequences may be of any one individual's choices in re: AGW, they are not zero.
    I must say I'm a bit surprised to see both this thought, and the attitudes underlying it, on this site (or for that.matter, in the same comment as your other points).
    And though I agree with you on the need for a "Manhattan Project" approach (and with your other observations about coal), the odds of that happening in the near future are very close to a Kelvin zero.
    And even if they weren't, such a process and individual action are not only not mutually exclusive, they are clearly complementary.
    Neither is likely to be sufficient, especially in the short and medium term.  Both -- and other societal and institutional approaches as well -- are necessary.

    •  Why, thank you so much for the inappropriate (0+ / 0-)

      scolding. Seems Irony is wasted on the Earnestly Ardently Sincere...

      I live on a boat, most of my electric comes from solar panels, my wife and I use maybe 100 gallons of potable water for all purposes every week, et cetera. My observation was intended to point out that putting Big Dirty Coal out of business is a wonderful, laudable goal but is not a cure-all. That "sector" is maybe a third of what's killing us. No argument with your various points and barbs, though around here it seems "we" are starting to savage each other pretty regularly. No argument about the individual and collective guilt of all of us who use and consume plastics and pesticides and GMO and cars and airplanes and leafblowers and all that are part of a problem of Dumb Design, apparently, where "features" are "failures" when it comes to survival of the human-centric system.

      Every little bit helps, I agree, and I know I could do even more, every day, in every way, to Cut Carbon and Minimize Methane and all that, and I look for ways to do so. You are all virulent about something: got any ideas how you encourage people like Al Gore to "live simply, that others may simply live?" I am doing a good bit of my part already, and your scolding ought to be directed elsewhere. Maybe you could go back and re-read what I wrote and what you wrote and see if you still think so vanishingly, condescendingly little of me.

      Bearing in mind that whether by burning, drowning, stroke or asphyxiation or what ever, we are all eventually dead, and our good deeds and bad are gone into the Great Brownian Motion that makes up the biosphere...

      "Is that all there is?" Peggy Lee.

      by jm214 on Wed May 15, 2013 at 12:51:21 PM PDT

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