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  •  SouthernDR - I think it is way too early (4+ / 0-)
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    to tally the score on how these issues will impact the President and the Democratic Party and its ability to pursue its legislative agenda. I agree, to date the President has done a good job dodging the blows but the MSM how has a real interest in all three of these stories and I don't think they are going to quickly blow over.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Tue May 14, 2013 at 09:59:46 PM PDT

    •  What legislative agenda? (6+ / 0-)

      Between the vandals in the House, and Mitch McConnell in the Senate, the President and the Democrats have NO possibility of passing anything of any substance.

      I agree that all three of these "scandals" are nothingburgers. I distinctly remember that on 9/11/2012, there were riots in the streets of Cairo and other Middle Eastern cities.  And those riots WERE about that stupid movie, and just general anti-infidel stuff.  So the mob in Benghazi happened at the same time.  So initial reports may have thought it was the same thing, when it really was seized on as an opportunity for a local militia/extremist group/whatever to load up their RPGs and take on the Great Satan.

      AND let us not forget that the "safe house" was a CIA compound, and most of the people involved were CIA assets.  I can TOTALLY understand why Susan Rice wouldn't be sent onto Sunday TV to explain our CIA presence in any detail.  D'oh!  To me, it looks like the State Dept. is taking one for the team instead of calling out the CIA BS.

      Does ANYONE have the concept of "fog of war" anymore?  Contrary to the crap we see on TV and in the movies, chaotic happenings must be sorted out before things make any sense.

      •  The problem with AP is not going to go away (1+ / 0-)
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        anytime soon. As Digby said:

        Anyway, I hate this kind of scandal mongering. It's exhausting and makes your head hurt. And we are, unfortunately, dealing with a package of administration scandals in which two are arguably partisan nonsense that are easy to man the barricades over --- and one is actually very disturbing. So it's not as clear cut as the administration might like
        Obama can survive the Benghazi and the IRS stories, but the other one has legs...I'll be very surprised if this one doesn't do some the very least, it could cause him to become a lame duck.
        •  I think the IRS story will hurt Obama more than (0+ / 0-)

          the AP one because the right-wing is reluctant to push the latter story as they believe in taking extraordinary measures to catch leakers and they don't want reminders that Obama stopped another terrorist attack.

          By contrast, the IRS story plays into the narrative that all gov't is evil and irresponsible.  Tea Party types will never let this go and their outrage will keep the MSM involved.  The MSM's first test on what to cover is any controversy where 1 side bitches about something the other side has done or they claim they had done.  Whether the thing they are bitching about lacks total merit is irrelevant to today's press.

          I would agree with those who believe the AP story is actually the most serious.  It worries me the most at least.      

          •  I have to disagree...I think (0+ / 0-)

            both scandals are sort of "hands off" for them, because the LAST thing they'd want is for the public to become wise to their 501(c)4 charade, using this tax exempt status to hide political action committees, flush with dirty money.

            This is ammunition for the "get the money out of our political process" crowd - aka progressives and libertarians - to push for that agenda.  This could actually be a HUGE blessing in disguise.

            You KNOW the GOP doesn't want THAT!


            by SouthernDemRon on Wed May 15, 2013 at 10:39:59 AM PDT

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            [T]he next big “scandal” to rock the White House (if you can really even say that), is the Internal Revenue Service’s handling of the various tea party organizations that arose after President Obama’s first presidential victory.
            [But] the scandal—the real scandal—is that 501(c)(4) groups have been engaged in political activity in such a sustained and open way. As Fred Wertheimer, the President of Democracy 21, a government-ethics watchdog group, put it, “it is clear that a number of groups have improperly claimed tax-exempt status as section 501(c)(4) ‘social welfare’ organizations in order to hide the donors who financed their campaign activities in the 2010 and 2012 federal elections.”
            But while the politics is heating up, some important context is emerging, like the fact that liberal groups were targeted as well, and in fact the only group to have its application denied was a liberal group.
            From this diary: Liberal Groups Targeted Too

            "Treat others as you would like them to treat you." -St. Luke 6: 31 (NEB) Christians are given a tough assignment here: Love the people you don't even like...

            by paz3 on Wed May 15, 2013 at 11:14:14 AM PDT

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      •  What initial reports would those be? (0+ / 0-)

        I have seen no after-action reports detailing any demonstration, let alone motives for same, prior to the assault on the consulate.

        So initial reports may have thought it was the same thing
    •  Don't read into (0+ / 0-)

      what I've written to presume I think these will blow over anytime soon; no, in fact I have FAITH in the Republican party to continue trying to squeeze the juice out of these three lemons as long as possible.  ANYthing to keep a negative term/headline in the media cycle.  That's their goal.  


      by SouthernDemRon on Wed May 15, 2013 at 10:23:24 AM PDT

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