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  •  Bingo (8+ / 0-)
    dividing human beings into such categories of race is, in and of itself, ridiculous.
    Someone that we call "Hispanic" may be part white, part Quechua, part Mayan, etc.

    Someone we call "black" may be descended from several different parts of Europe and several different parts of Africa, plus one or more of the many North American Indian tribes.

    Pretending that these are discrete "races" is a convenient fiction.

    I shall die, but that is all that I shall do for Death; I am not on his payroll. - Edna St. Vincent Millay

    by Tara the Antisocial Social Worker on Wed May 15, 2013 at 07:39:53 AM PDT

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    •  Sullivan makes this exact point (0+ / 0-)

      Sullivan is (apparently) a racist
      You, therefore, must be a racist.

      (snark, btw)

      We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

      by theotherside on Wed May 15, 2013 at 09:20:13 AM PDT

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      •  And yet he makes that completely loopy (4+ / 0-)
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        poodles-and-beagles comparison.

        A century ago, Very Serious People told us that Irish immigrants were genetically inferior, less intelligent, less capable, even less moral than those of British or Northern European descent.  There were Very Serious pronouncements that we shouldn't try educating the poor dears, it would just be cruel because they just weren't as smart (but no doubt had an awesome sense of smell).  The same templates were hauled out when "Irish" was replaced with "Italian."

        A century later, Irish and Italians are both deemed "white" and therefore in the "racially superior" category.  So...their genes mutated and they changed from beagles into poodles?

        Sure is miraculous how the current wave of immigrants always just happens to be the one that Very Serious Don't-You-Dare-Call-them-Racist People deems genetically inferior.

        I shall die, but that is all that I shall do for Death; I am not on his payroll. - Edna St. Vincent Millay

        by Tara the Antisocial Social Worker on Wed May 15, 2013 at 10:06:43 AM PDT

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    •  I don't think so - you can learn things this way. (0+ / 0-)

      The risk is dividing by race and then using findings to promote racism.

      Facts are facts. Truth is truth.

      It does not have to be a negative thing - we divide by race to discover and treat health problems.

      I think the real issue is how "intelligence" is defined pr how that definition of intelligence is used.

      And as Sullivan pointed out - being smarter does not mean being better.

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