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  •  I agree with your statement regarding the Mexican (0+ / 0-)

    immigrants population's IQ being at 80 as a whole is ludicrous.

    But, just so that you and I are clear, I know that you don't think that IQ is even partially genetic based.  I think IQ is affected by a great many factors and genetics/race may be one of the factors.  If it isn't true, great.  If it is true, I would be curious to see what in our evolutionary past caused that difference since we all descended from a relative handful of homo sapiens 100,000 to 200,000 years ago.  But what you stated in your comment prior to this one is that you thought that others were arguing that IQ is "entirely genetic".

    It may have been a simple goof on your part and that's fine.  I was merely pointing out that your stating that that  what Sullivan and/or Richwine or the Bell Curve was saying was that IQ was "entirely genetic" is not at all what they are arguing.

    Be well.

    We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

    by theotherside on Thu May 16, 2013 at 10:46:55 AM PDT

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    •  Richwine's paper argues that IQ is 100% genetic (0+ / 0-)

      And that a non-existent race (Hispanic, which is not a race, but an ethnicity comprising people of many races) is of genetically low intelligence.

      •  Like Sullivan, I didn't read Richwine's paper (0+ / 0-)

        Richwine's willingness to post at white supremacist websites makes his views on this subject too biased to seriously consider what he states.

        With that said, you need to perhaps consider getting different sources for your news.  As I surmised before this last post, neither Sullivan, Richwine or the Bell Curve comes anywhere close to saying that IQ is 100% genetic.

        Since you continue to state this I quickly went to the internet and found this quote:

        Richwine said lower IQs among Hispanics in the U.S. were caused in part by genetics, though he said that "the extent of [genetic] impact is hard to determine."

        If you are going to websites that push an agenda at risk of the truth, you might want to reconsider going to those sites.  There is probably plenty to laugh at and ridicule about Richwine's dissertation (especially his conclusions) without stating an obvious falsehood that he claimed that IQ was 100 percent genetic.

        We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

        by theotherside on Fri May 17, 2013 at 06:55:53 AM PDT

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        •  Go read the paper. (1+ / 0-)
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          He dismisses all evidence regarding environmental influence - so while he makes a minor acknowledgement at the beginning that the extent of genetic influence is hard to determine, he spends the entire paper "proving" that it's genetic.

          Since you admit you haven't read it, I have no need to continue this conversation. I have read it.

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