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  •  Good start may be not calling them "conservatives" (5+ / 0-)

    They no longer represent anything remotely close--because even today, the term still carries some notion of logic, restraint and wisdom.  They are not conservatives.  They are radicals with radical ideas.

    If the plutocrats begin the program, we will end it. -- Eugene Debs.

    by livjack on Thu May 16, 2013 at 03:51:12 PM PDT

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    •  The correct term for them is reactionaries (1+ / 0-)
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      or a regressive. A conservative wants to maintain the status quo. A reactionary or a regressive seeks to roll back the clock to an earlier time in histry by eliminating reforms or policies that are currently in place. Many of these folks, particularly Grover Norquist and Karl Rove, have openly stated their affectation and desire to roll the clock back to the Gilded Age McKinley Era, albeit with modern technology.

      At that time labor was extremely cheap. There was little or no middle class, working people were dirt poor; a highly skilled worker . There were very few constraints on the rich. No business regulation. No social safety net run by the government; it was all private charity and woefully inadequate.  The KKK and other right wing domestic terrorists ran rampant, with frequent lynchings of people of color. And racial discrimination and apartheid were the law of the land with the 1896 Plessy v. Ferguson supreme court case, and Santa Clara v Southenr Pacific RR had also codified corporate personhood.

      Life was often nasty, brutish and short for 90-95 percent of the population. Read Wisconsin Death Trip for an account of that time.

      It was a great time to be one of the mega rich, not so much for anyone else. The whole Gilded Age is a wet dream for the current crop of reactionaries who are de-facto running Congress.

      Trickle Down Economics 101: They get the golden parachute, we get the golden shower.

      by NoMoreLies on Fri May 17, 2013 at 10:50:51 AM PDT

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      •  Highly skilled workers and craftsmen (0+ / 0-)

        during the 1890s (McKinley Era) in the US earned the equivalent of $3,000 in current (2013 dollars) during that time. The average worker earned even less.

        Trickle Down Economics 101: They get the golden parachute, we get the golden shower.

        by NoMoreLies on Fri May 17, 2013 at 11:17:39 AM PDT

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        •  Yes--my son was studying this period in APUSH (1+ / 0-)
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          this year, so I have recently refreshed my knowledge about this along with him.  Wealth divide/no regs a huge problem for hey! the 99% back then...the cycle keeps repeating itself.

          I like the idea of calling them "regressives."

          Radicals and reactionaries is still sounding too positive for the likes of these.  I think "regressives" is perfect.

          If the plutocrats begin the program, we will end it. -- Eugene Debs.

          by livjack on Fri May 17, 2013 at 11:42:03 AM PDT

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