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  •  I'm actually okay with (2+ / 0-)
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    jm214, ashiftinconsciousness

    Monsanto going after seed-savers, because if they didn't care to enforce the exclusivity of their genetically engineered cultivars, those cultivars would spread much farther and faster than they already do by pollen (and promiscuously species-jumping transgenes). There are USDA regulations related to the planting of GMO cultivars which are supposed to protect organic producers and the natural environment (other plants and insects). They don't often work very well - corn pollen, for instance, can travel for miles in the wind to contaminate conventional and heirloom crops - but they do serve more purposes than just protecting Monsanto, et al.

    The dangers of genetically engineered pharmaceuticals - both human and veterinary - are not so well regulated by the FDA. Which is and has long been known to allow known carcinogens and other harmful substances into our foods and drugs, usually based on which Big Pharma concern the current gub'ment functionaries worked for last. rBST is not good for dairy cattle. It is known to cause mastitis, shortened productive lifetimes, tumors, and udders so grotesquely swollen they drag on the ground and get stepped on. It is present in the milk products and increases growth hormone levels in humans, and that is also known to lead to cancers. I am highly suspicious of all of 'em, but for some medical conditions short-term gain outweighs long-term dangers. That's always been true of drugs. It has not always been true of basic staple foodstuffs.

    •  Total agreement. Best course would be to get these (5+ / 0-)

      monsters and their "innovations" out of the food chain altogether. How do you drive that wooden stake into and bury a $44 billion (market value) corporation staffed and ruled by people who have sold their souls to Moloch?

      "Is that all there is?" Peggy Lee.

      by jm214 on Fri May 17, 2013 at 11:27:34 AM PDT

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    •  I ageee with... (1+ / 0-)
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      most of your comment. However, I don't believe a corporation should even be able to own a patent on something like seeds.

      And, I doubt who the farmer buys seeds from effects how much of our crops are GM, it's only a matter of who gets paid for it.

      Thanks for the comment.

      Doing my part to break the Capitalist Indoctrination Process. Here's where I rant:

      by ashiftinconsciousness on Fri May 17, 2013 at 12:20:18 PM PDT

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      •  The patent is on the transgene(s) (0+ / 0-)

        in the seeds. Soil bacteria based toxins normally expressed only in the unique digestive systems of target insects who can dissolve the spore shell and activate the bacterium to start reproducing and producing the toxin. Now expressed raw in every single cell of the entire plant - fruit, flowers, pollen, roots, leaves, stalks... all of it. Toxins no mammal has ever been exposed to at any point in their evolutionary history, because our digestive systems don't dissolve the spores. Target insects? They quickly become desensitized (immune). Then you need more and better toxins... some GMOs have 3 or more expressed in abundance.

        What could possibly go wrong?

        As for herbicide resistance, that comes naturally enough to the most gnarly of stubborn weeds - pigweed, morning glories, dandelions, whatever. Spreading that resistance to rapeseed, leftover soy and corn and whatever is just a short-term problem. Dangerous mostly for the much more drastically poisonous-to-life herbicides they have to use once the weeds are immune to the lessers. Absolutely not acceptable in the scheme of Things Sustainable long term.

        Sure, the draconian ugliness is all about proprietary 'secret' patented genes and who gets to profit from them. But because they're serious about that, a lot of genetic pollution of the natural world has so far been held in check. Call it a perk. I'll take it.

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