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  •  Depends (3+ / 0-)
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    Is OFA Serious about Climate Change or Not?
    Depends on which way the Obama wind blows.  
    •  I completely disagree. (3+ / 0-)
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      julesrules39, catfood, prishannah

      Obama may talk up both sides of the issue - but his [administration's] actions have always been consistently in favor of more fossil fuel production regardless of the cost.

      There's been no frequent course changes your statement implies. Unfortunately.

      •  Really? (2+ / 0-)
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        hooper, AgavePup

        Obama reduced oil consumption and stopped the building of new coal fired power plants that don't include carbon capture. It's more accurate to say Obama has supported some short term increases in domestic fossil fuel extraction while taking long-term steps to reduce it by much more.

        •  It's a fair characterization. (2+ / 0-)
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          JesseCW, 3goldens

          But I'm afraid I'm glass half-empty on this one. He made some minor obvious & easy changes that only hadn't been implemented because, well, Bush.

          He also provided in a dramatic increase in fuel extraction, particularly fracking, with little oversight. He's been AWOL in terms of promoting environmental considerations.

          I suppose I just don't see the long-term steps to reduce it by much more.

          His carbon credit market kind of seems like Clinton's attempt at health-care reform. It's a really good idea too easily abandoned out of either political cowardice or just not caring all that much. Largely the second, I'm guessing.

          •  AWOL? (2+ / 0-)
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            6412093, Onomastic

            That's an exaggeration. Making the stimulus the largest investment in clean energy and efficiency in America history many times over was not minor or easy. Forcing Detroit to finally reduce fuel consumption wasn't so easy for Clinton, who failed to do so.
            Moving forward with half a dozen EPA regulations on coal isn't being AWOL. It's the most important action item right now since coal plants are the top source of climate change pollutants.
            Cap-and-trade and regulating fracking both require Congressional action. You can fault Obama for not pushing those harder in his first two years, but it's obvious to everyone that fossil fuel Democrats in the Senate would have made that a wasted effort.

        •  An ongoing recession for the 99% reduced (1+ / 0-)
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          oil consumption.

          Refusing to make serious efforts to create jobs is a pretty shitty way to fight climate change.

          "The thing about smart motherfuckers is that they sound like crazy motherfuckers to dumb motherfuckers." Robert Kirkman

          by JesseCW on Sat May 18, 2013 at 05:33:23 AM PDT

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          •  Two rounds of auto emissions (1+ / 0-)
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            and mileage standards. The first heavy truck mileage and emissions standards. Forcing Detroit to get serious about electric cars and hybrids. Cash for clunkers took high mileage, highly polluting cars off the road. Massive investment in high speed rail and mass transit. Refocusing the Transportation Department on bicycle and pedestrian friendly planning to move away from cars.

            Obama has taken important action items that greens and progressives have wanted for years. Those actions didn't stop being important just because Obama got it done.

        •  You said: (1+ / 0-)
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          Obama ........stopped the building of new coal fired power plants that don't include carbon capture
          He has not finally done that yet, however.   That action was the publication of a proposed new source performance standard for coal-fired power plants.

          Because under Section 111 of the Clean Air Act such proposed standards are immediately effective to the permitting and construction of new units, the regulations are already binding on potential emission sources.  

          However, these are not final regulations that have been published and President Obama's EPA has yet to publish final regulations.   This is all in the the middle of a highly charged and focused campaign to push back the coal plant NSPS from the electric utility and coal industry.

          •  None have been approved (0+ / 0-)

            since he took office and none will be. Mostly due to existing regulations being enforced. The permit issued by Illinois EPA for Tenaskas coal plant proposed in Taylorville, Illinois was denied and sent back because it didn't include carbon capture requirements.

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