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  •  Every day, or thereabouts... (14+ / 0-)

    ...someone here says there's nothing we can do to stop Keystone XL and we shouldn't even try because we need the oil and that, besides, it's just a drop in the bucket compared with all the sources (oil from elsewhere included) of CO2.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Sun May 19, 2013 at 10:20:45 AM PDT

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    •  Oppprtunities are everywhere, even in making a (0+ / 0-)

      killing in killing the human-livable planet

      In addition to all the people who are invested in just doing more of the same combusto-consumption, there are a lot of people who are seeing great investment opportunities in various aspects of what even they are calling "climate change," out of one side of their mouths at least.

      For those who have that prudent careful wise $5 to invest every week and are young enough to expect decades of compound interest and growth of "capital" to comfort their declining years, here are a few places to start looking for opportunities:

      http://www.bloomberg.com/...

      http://www.mindfulmoney.co.uk/...

      http://www.iigcc.org/

      http://www.businessweek.com/...

      I guess until the last dehydrated, hyperthermic human drops and dies, it will always be a case that "it is an ill wind indeed that blows no man good..."

      "Is that all there is?" Peggy Lee.

      by jm214 on Sun May 19, 2013 at 10:52:40 AM PDT

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    •  In propaganda, that's what is (5+ / 0-)

      "stating that the loss is inevitable." It's used all the time to discourage opponents.

      An example is when the anti-war demonstrators came to DC to protest the invasion of Iraq, before March 19, 2003, a Senator said "that train has left the station."

      To thine ownself be true

      by Agathena on Sun May 19, 2013 at 11:18:15 AM PDT

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    •  "We need the oil"? (3+ / 0-)
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      That statement is wrong on so many levels.

      We need more clean energy, not more oil.

      The Keystone XL pipeline "oil" is, first of all, not oil, and second, not for us.  It will be refined (more pollution) in and around Port Arthur and sold on the world market.  The U.S. may buy it, but it won't be cheap - we will have paid for it many times over.  Most probably, though, it will be shipped overseas.

      Wrong, wrong, wrong.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Sun May 19, 2013 at 04:44:07 PM PDT

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