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  •  Seems like I recall (9+ / 0-)

    a time when the media was absolutely in love with Obama.

    A far cry from this, it seems:

    And since then, I and many other journalists have observed that this administration, despite its public rhetoric, has repeatedly and continually been very difficult to deal with. I rate them worse than the Bush administration.  [...] So, this is a very troubling aspect of this administration. It is hostile to the news media. It seems to have an attitude that if they don’t like the question, they don’t have to answer it. And it makes it very difficult and cumbersome to get responses from there. They’re be having much more like a corporation than like the people’s government.
    Apparantly the feeling wasn't mutual.




    Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us.
    ~ Jerry Garcia

    by DeadHead on Sat May 18, 2013 at 02:08:56 AM PDT

    •  Part II of this series... (12+ / 0-)

      ...contains some interesting response from the media, as well (to say the least)...and the response from the White House regarding reinstating the Shield Law (effort), when you drill down on the details of what that really means (per Part III of this series), tells us that it's really not much of a "solution" (and, in fact, in many ways it could make a bad situation worse, as you'll soon read it, once I publish it) despite spin here and elsewhere to the contrary.

      "I always thought if you worked hard enough and tried hard enough, things would work out. I was wrong." --Katharine Graham

      by bobswern on Sat May 18, 2013 at 02:15:26 AM PDT

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      •  Originally, I thought Obama would (7+ / 0-)

        survive the 'IRS scandal' with ease, but the latest Huffington Post article re: the who-knew-what-and-when reminds me of the onset of the Watergate investigation...

        ...if that story leads to something more ominous, and if  the AP story is pursued with dogged determination, Obama's second term could be as stormy as Nixon's.

        Mike Lux made an interesting observation several days ago -- after these two stories broke: Obama is going to need his base fired up and united in his defense, but that's not going to happen if he pushes through the Chained CPI...and I would add he's going to lose support and create a shit-storm if he approves the Keystone XL pipeline, so he could be in trouble early on if he doesn't change direction on those two issues.

        Add in the problems caused by his involvement in the sequestration and how he has helped restore funding to the military and funding for the furloughed air traffic controllers while offering no defense for social safety net programs, the new revelation that the government, under his direction, has made $50 billion off student loans, the possible collapse of ACA, and the continuing expansion of the income gap, he could be in real trouble soon...and so could the Democratic Party.

        •  Ok, I must be missing something here... (4+ / 0-)

          I'm not dismissing your concerns; I share some of them as far as the president's political agenda henceforth. But where's the wrongdoing on the part of the White House? They learned of the investigation in June of 2012, per the HuffPo article:

          At one point in the day's hearing, Treasury IG George said he had told the department's general counsel about his investigation on June 4, 2012, and Deputy Treasury Secretary Neal Wolin "shortly thereafter." But, George cautioned, those discussions were "not to inform them of the results of the audit. It was to inform them of the fact that we were conducting the audit."
          But didn't learn of the results until March of this year, again, per the article:
          The Treasury Department issued a statement Friday saying officials first became aware of the actual results of the investigation in March of this year, when they were provided a draft of George's report, a standard practice.
          The White House had no reason to publicize the fact that they were informed about the investigation, as far as I can tell.

          At this point, I don't see any legal culpability on the part of the White House.

          I do share your concerns about the agenda though. But I'm not worried about Obama going down for this -- or any of the other so-called 'scandals' -- winding through D.C. right now.

          "Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone" - John Maynard Keynes

          by markthshark on Sat May 18, 2013 at 03:43:13 AM PDT

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          •  Well, I think you misinterpreted this: (0+ / 0-)
            ...if that story leads to something more ominous, and if the AP story is pursued with dogged determination,
            I remember very vividly how Watergate began...in the beginning it seemed rather innocuous -- just like these stories, but there was too much corruption lying beneath the surface for it to disappear, and eventually the truth was revealed a drop at a time...

            The Republicans are too corrupt to pass up any opportunity to shut down the Democratic agenda...and since almost everything you touch in D.C. has an element of corruption beneath the surface, a lot will depend on the type of threads they weave together to make their case...

            Time will tell.

            •  I don't think I misinterpreted at all... (0+ / 0-)

              I just don't see the underlying corruption in the Obama administration.

              They're guilty of a lot of things: giving in to the Republicans; fighting for Wall Street more often than Main Street; seemingly ignoring pressing concerns like climate change, and others. But inter-administration corruption or law breaking?

              I just don't see it.

              Remember, if the system is rigged, there's no need to break the law.

              "Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone" - John Maynard Keynes

              by markthshark on Sun May 19, 2013 at 12:38:33 AM PDT

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      •  The solution lies within Congress... (7+ / 0-)

        I don't quite understand all the anger and righteous indignation directed towards the DoD over the AP phone records -- legitimate or otherwise. As far as I know, Holder's been following the laws... as they were written.

        The real scandal is over Congress's failure to repeal or at least modify extensively laws like the NDAA and the Patriot Act. Those are the freakin' laws facilitating these egregious constitutional violations.

        We need to wake up and pressure Congress to get rid of these [democracy-killing] laws. Until we do, no 'shield law' or the Bill of Rights itself, for that matter, is going to protect our civil rights and liberties.

        I will not donate to or support in any way any candidate next year who won't promise to work to restore our Constitution.

        Thanks for the diary, Bob.

        "Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone" - John Maynard Keynes

        by markthshark on Sat May 18, 2013 at 03:17:19 AM PDT

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        •  Until we learn otherwise, and after filtering... (3+ / 0-)

          ...out the political bullshit, I see very little credibility in the IRS matter. And, as far as I'm concerned, the Benghazi issue is a non-issue at this point. Frankly, anything the GOPer asshats are doing to keep that alive, at this point, is beyond just being political bullshit. It's shameful.

          All of the above being said, I am--and have always been, historically so, with some substantial stories in the MSM about things I've done in my career to back this up, too--a very strong advocate for press freedom. And, this particular matter covered in my posts, today, is an exceptionally important and quite real matter that is now in front of us, IMHO.

          For any "pragmatic" Democrat to be giving this story short shrift is just bad news, if from no other vantage point than the mere political/strategic implications of it. This isn't going away. And, those that attempt to spin it in such a manner (including far too many around here, IMHO) are just playing bad poker.

          "I always thought if you worked hard enough and tried hard enough, things would work out. I was wrong." --Katharine Graham

          by bobswern on Sat May 18, 2013 at 11:01:54 AM PDT

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          •  I understand that. And I respect real journalism.. (0+ / 0-)

            But we should be outraged by the laws making this kind of behavior by the DoD legal.

            Congress needs to repeal these laws. They have no business in a democracy -- even in a sorry excuse for a democracy like ours.

            "Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone" - John Maynard Keynes

            by markthshark on Sun May 19, 2013 at 12:28:36 AM PDT

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