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  •  Chlorine degrades into innocuous (3+ / 0-)
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    Components.

    Flouride is an industrial waste byproduct that must be denoted as hazardous waste.

    Apples and oranges

    •  Chlorination can cause (4+ / 0-)

      byproducts which can be cancerous, according to the WHO.

      Gondwana has always been at war with Laurasia.

      by AaronInSanDiego on Sat May 18, 2013 at 01:50:33 PM PDT

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      •  The benefits outweigh the risks (4+ / 0-)
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        There is no medical benefit to flouride in water though. Only if it is applied to the teeth.

        •  Not sure it's that clear cut. (4+ / 0-)

          I remember when this issue came up locally a few years ago it seemed a bit ambiguous, but the weight of the evidence seemed in favor of adding small amounts of fluoride.

          Gondwana has always been at war with Laurasia.

          by AaronInSanDiego on Sat May 18, 2013 at 02:04:08 PM PDT

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          •  Take all the fluoride you want (1+ / 0-)
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            You can ingest as much fluoride as you think best for your health.

            But anyone who chooses not to ingest fluoride should not be forced to do so by elected officials adding it to the municipal water supply.

            Even if your doctor strenuously urges you to take some medication, it is your right to decide, as a patient, whether to do so or not.

            The city wants no backtalk: they've decided that 100% of the population will benefit--or, maybe less than 100%, but who cares about some minority that might be hurt?--and therefore the entire population will get this medication in their water, like it or not.

            •  I doubt ingestion is going to help much. (0+ / 0-)

              What I've read is that the reason fluoridated water has an effect is not because it's ingested. If you injected the same water into your system, it probably wouldn't have the same benefit as drinking it orally. As for me, I don't need it, but those who don't have access to adequate dental care may benefit from it.

              Gondwana has always been at war with Laurasia.

              by AaronInSanDiego on Sat May 18, 2013 at 06:30:03 PM PDT

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            •  That, in my opinion, is the only logical argument (0+ / 0-)

              against community water fluoridation. Nearly all the other stuff -- the toxic industrial waste bullshit and preying on people's ignorance about dose-response -- are fear-mongering.

              But there is a legitimate question of whether public water supplies should or should not be used to deliver low, but beneficial, levels of substances designed to improve average public health.

              It's a valid question and worthy of a good philosophical discussion.

              The problem is, that question gets drowned out by the anti-fluoridation hysteria, some of which you've propagated in earlier comments to this diary.

    •  Why should we be dosed if we do not want it? (4+ / 0-)

      If you want fluoride go to the dentist and get the real stuff or use tooth  paste and or a rinse.
      The health risks to the rest of our bodies should be researched before inflicting it on the general populace. We deal with enough toxins we do not need any more.

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