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  •  Make him give up his guns now. (2+ / 0-)
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    tuesdayschilde, dream weaver

    I'm not anti-gun just anti showboat plus I favor decriminalization of victim-less crimes against public morals.

    I hope that inviting people to join a demonstration whose intent is to commit mass illegal activity can be charged as a federal felony and, as a condition of his release on bail, that he is required to lead Federal Marshals to his home and allow them entry in order to remove any weapons found before he is allowed to enter his home.

    I am not a fan of anyone who supports mass demonstrations specifically organized to commit illegal acts.

    I, for one, have no problem being led by a 3500 year old Pharaoh who was trained by space aliens on a distant star.

    by Tomtech on Sun May 19, 2013 at 12:05:21 AM PDT

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    •  Well, there's the puzzle (11+ / 0-)

      Both the Smoke Down and the Open Carry March are "mass demonstrations specifically organized to commit illegal acts."

      I'm sympathetic to the Smoke Down.  I believe marijuana should be decriminalized or legalized, and that huge damage has been wrought on society by the enforcement of those laws. The Smoke Down therefore seems a righteous act of civil disobedience which makes its point without any danger of bringing harm.

      On the other hand, I do NOT support the idea of a bunch of gun-wielding, government-hating conspiracy nuts marching on the City of Washington DC. I believe their sense of persecution is wildly inflated--no one is coming for their guns--and the potential for this to escalate to a tragic outcome very high.

      In these arrests, the two threads have been entwined. I'm trying to stay focused on what I see as arrests which seem aimed less at enforcing the law and more at suppressing dissent.

      I'll fight the political battles--in favor of marijuana legalization and against the dangerous and irrational opposition to sensible gun control--on their own terms. I'll also fight against over-reaching on the part of authorities to quash dissent.

      It's not always easy to parse how to do so.

      "The people have only as much liberty as they have the intelligence to want & the courage to take." - Emma Goldman

      by DebtorsPrison on Sun May 19, 2013 at 12:32:49 AM PDT

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      •  I agree with you, almost exactly. (7+ / 0-)

        I too believe as you do except that  I do not believe openly believe getting yourself arrested is going to change a thing. In fact, most people are in no position to have such an arrest on their records.

        I believe strongly that we have to deliver change to D.C. and to the statehouses and not the other way around. Pot is still illegal, that is the problem. The only way to be safe is to get legislation through Congress. Otherwise we will be subject to the whims of whichever administration holds power.

        I've been watching these kind of protests since I was a little kid. They come out, protest, the police pick and choose who to arrest. All these years, all these arrests, and pot is still illegal.

        Lastly, I'm not big on picking and choosing which laws to follow. While I'm all for avoiding all non violent drug arrests, I'm not for ignoring the ACA or gun regulations as some are vowing to do. I believe we are best served if we are consistent about following the law.

        I will support any effort to organize and turn out to vote for politicians who will end this Prohibition. 2.0.

        The politicians may be bought, and the system corrupt, but it is our duty to fix these things.

        by sebastianguy99 on Sun May 19, 2013 at 01:28:24 AM PDT

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        •  ya know (3+ / 0-)
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          DebtorsPrison, 6412093, Meteor Blades

          We had smoke-in's here in Colorado for decades...this past April? a first....

          The first step is getting MM in your is murky business after it passes but sets up a structure for growing/selling/taxing...

          There is huge money in taxes waiting...and fewer crowded cells and records...

          As for openly getting arrested for non-violent resistance?
          That is a personal choice...not an easy one..but one I have taken over the past 40 years...and never regretted it..
          but is that electing better folks working for you?

          "You can't close the door when the wall's caved in."

          •  You do realize pot is still illegal right? (1+ / 0-)
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            What is happening in Colorado will succeed or fail based on who is elected in D.C. but you seem to forget that.

            Or are y'all going to seceded too?

            Look, don't be fooled and don't be lazy. The law must be changed at the federal level. While I'm glad that you have a privileged position in life where an arrest doesn't fuck your life, you should realize that millions do not enjoy the same lot.

            You can't change if you you don't acknowledge reality.

            The politicians may be bought, and the system corrupt, but it is our duty to fix these things.

            by sebastianguy99 on Sun May 19, 2013 at 12:01:23 PM PDT

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    •  I'm sure you didn't mean to do so... (2+ / 0-)
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      Tomtech, DebtorsPrison

      ...but you just argued against numerous civil rights and some antiwar protests of the 1960s.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Sun May 19, 2013 at 04:49:41 PM PDT

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