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  •  There is a fine line here. (2+ / 0-)
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    Civil disobedience is, indeed, and honorable endeavor. Without it, and brave folk prepared to go to prison, or worse, we would not have gained many of the social advances of the last 100 years.

    On the other hand, those engaged in deliberate law-breaking, even in a noble cause, do so knowing they will probably be arrested and jailed, and the purpose is to concentrate minds and ignite public opinion.

    It is a very successful tactic, as proven over many a long year ... as Nelson Mandela!

    So arresting this guy is a double-edged sword. Sure he was targeted. Because he was breaking the law and has already announced his intention of doing so again. What were the police to do?

    The problem is that it martyrs him in the eyes of his followers, and rather than putting the gun-march in jeopardy, it could serve to make that an even bigger event than it might otherwise have been.

    So we may take the view that he was "singled out", and that is probably correct. Whether it was wise or not, from ANY viewing of the situation, is quite another matter.

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    Who is twigg?

    by twigg on Sun May 19, 2013 at 07:38:16 AM PDT

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    •  I agree. (1+ / 0-)
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      My attention was drawn to this story because I know the OTHER guy who was arrested, N. a. Poe. When I heard there had been arrests at the rally, I immediately linked it to the mocking publicity the Philadelphia Police and especially the National Park Police had gotten from the Repent America video of last month's rally.

      For four months, the Smoke Downs had been tolerated by the police with no interference--many of them are no doubt sympathetic themselves. But once that tolerance was publicized by the video, the police needed to be seen as cracking down. The number of arrests were minimal, and largely resulted in citations being issued.

      By nightfall, I saw that only two people remained in custody. One was Poe, the event organizer, and cracking down on him seemed clearly aimed at shutting down future Smoke Downs.

      The other was Kokesh, who I suddenly realized I'd just read about here on DailyKos in Clytemnestra's diary. His arrest now struck me as calculated as well, but it had nothing to do with the Smoke Down.  It probably will feed the frenzy of his followers, and that is not a good thing.

      "The people have only as much liberty as they have the intelligence to want & the courage to take." - Emma Goldman

      by DebtorsPrison on Sun May 19, 2013 at 08:33:21 AM PDT

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      •  Yup ... all of that (1+ / 0-)
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        There is also another fine judgement buried in here.

        That is the difference between "intelligence led policing", and "profiling".

        In the end, it doesn't matter what laws, guidelines or procedures we adopt, until we have the right people in positions of power, they will always be abused.

        I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
        but I fear we will remain Democrats.

        Who is twigg?

        by twigg on Sun May 19, 2013 at 09:11:11 AM PDT

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