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  •  I'm like you and catwho... (5+ / 0-)

    I suppose I always felt that any organized religion was not for me, and by the time I was in my late teens I knew that I was atheist.  But I was raised in the RCC...

    But I have to wonder how serious this new Pope is going to be taken by the rest of the hierarchy?  He has talked a very different tune than the last 2 already, and I can't help but wonder if there isn't some "buyers remorse" in the college of Cardinals.  Or maybe they expected this type of communication and are hoping that it can be used as an effective smokescreen while the organization continues in its rotten ways?

    I asked my mother, who is what I'd say is a moderate Catholic, about her feelings about the new Pope, and I was surprised about the timid response.  If a person who is less inclined to mix the political with the religious is lukewarm about this man, I can only imagine that the more hard line elements in the Church are seething.

    So, yes, nice words.  But it is in the category of Harry Reid's continual promises regarding filibuster reform in the Senate - show me, don't tell me.

    •  Or perhaps, conversely, the church could see (5+ / 0-)

      that they had lost their way, and chose this pope precisely because they knew he'd plot a different course.  There will always be those in an existing power structure who are unhappy to see change because it means a lessening of their own power, and they can be expected to fight it overtly or covertly.  But I do think that there are probably a good number of higher-ups who recognize that the church is truly at a crossroads here and needs a major course correction.

      •  It can be half-full, half-empty: (1+ / 0-)
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        Both of you are probably onto some truth. The fact is we'll never really know their motivation.

        One thing we DO know is that this man has at least lived a personally humble life, so - at the very least he is not a hypocrite. Whether he has convictions such that he can move the massive edifice that is the church in a better direction is an open question, though he is off to a decent start.

        IF the church is ever going to get some respect for its mission after the abuse scandals (and I am not sure it can ever come back) it can only come from the support of billions, who would look to it as being the only check upon the global corporate elite driving the rest of us into increasing poverty.

        Blessed are the peacemakers, the poor, the meek and the sick. Message to Repug Fundies: "DO you really wonder "what would Jesus do?" I didn't think so.

        by 4CasandChlo on Sun May 19, 2013 at 12:00:19 PM PDT

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      •  From your keyboard (1+ / 0-)
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        Hammerhand

        To Godde's laptop....

      •  What would happen if the Pope issued a papal bull (1+ / 0-)
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        that came out for a woman's right to choose, marriage equality, an end to all war, equal pay for equal work, climate change mediation and a general redistribution of wealth to pay for it?

        Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

        by rktect on Wed May 22, 2013 at 02:43:24 PM PDT

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