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  •  Wrestlers, particularly good collegiate (5+ / 0-)

    wrestlers, dominate MMA today. John Bones Jones is the heavyweight champ and has a killer wrestling background.

    You and I had this conversation years ago and I always wanted to make sure I wasn't excessively flippant and that I agreed with you on this note.

    And yeah, you kick one person's ass and pretty much people leave you alone after that. Funny how that works....

    •  I Am 43. I was like 27. (4+ / 0-)

      A guy was pushing this women outside of a bar. I will be honest I don't tend to like to get engaged in other people's affairs. But I asked her, "are you OK?" She said no.

      I was how about we go inside and call you a cab.

      Her boyfriend/husband I don't know took issue with this. He made a huge mistake. He didn't hit me in the back of my head. He put his hand on my shoulder where I could grab it. Turn him and I turned. Took a leg out. Down. Chocked him out.

      Called the police.

      Generally speaking I'd NEVER do this. You never know who you are engaging. I might engage you and you kick my ass.

      BTW: The MMA thing is amazing. I love to watch it. At times a ton of blood. Maybe too much. But the moves those folks make. The defense. Lot of skills going on.

      •  I was 31 when I had the fight mentioned in the (4+ / 0-)

        diary. I am 52 now.

        about a year ago or so I starrd a guy down in the street, choking his gf at a bus stop in broad daylight. He put on quite a display but even with 2 friends joining he and they elected to move along. Not a shot fired.

        I gave them my Death Eye.

      •  And you and I aren't likely to fight (1+ / 0-)
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        because neither one of us starts stuff with people.

        But yeah, one always runs a risk of meeting a better fighter, but mostly I think people who do bad things like this are impulsive and undisciplined and not likely to be very competent fighters.

        Reason #1 I don't go round starting stuff....

        •  Some of them have weapons (2+ / 0-)
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          by Dogs are fuzzy on Sun May 19, 2013 at 05:28:10 PM PDT

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          •  A big concern. (2+ / 0-)
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            I the words of my wife, I have the running kung fu as well.

            However, I am not all that bothered by non-firearm weapons. Knives are by far the worst. Never been confronted with a knife.

            Other things such as ball bats and sticks are sort of a specialty.

            The empty hand literally is the more dangerous weapon as a hand with a stick or a knife becomes very limited in what it can do, plus it becomes the target of your opponent.

            I have had a variety of occasions of disarming people for one reason or another that I don't consider fights, mostly in the course of my work with teens and psychiatric patients.

            I disarmed and took down single-handledly a large out of control teen one night during utter chaos on a unit of a crappy hospital I worked in. He had a sizeable wdge of wood, pointed at one end. I ended up in a room alone with him and the wood. (God that sounds bad)

            As he squared off against me I zipped in and  stripped that out of his hand and took him down with a leg sweep and sat on top of him until help arrived.

            Later he said that was "really cool' and I never had any further difficulty with him.

            And I did already mention running away...

    •  There IS that judo girl whose matches rarely... (2+ / 0-)
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      last a round. Wrestlers have no backround in chokes and armbars needed to end a match. I find MMA silly myself and a bit of a sad commentary on our society (they should just add swords IMHO). But Rhonda, as big a dope as she is, cleans up in women's and it's her judo backround that does it. Kayla Harrison would kick her butt but, she's too smart for MMA.

      •  MMA is like heavy metal (3+ / 0-)
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        a lot of it is bad.


      •  Really? swords? (1+ / 0-)
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        "sad commentary on our society?"
        You're okay with football & boxing?

        There's quite a difference between Olympic Judo and MMA.  Just because Kayla Harrison is better a judoka (and outweighs Roussey by 20+ lbs) means nothing as far as MMA.

        Did you see Roulon Gardner fight MMA?  terrible.
        Tom Erickson?  Bad as well.

        •  I am far from OK with football...I am also well.. (0+ / 0-)

          aware of the differences between the spectacle of MMA and judo.  I also know both Rhonda and Kayla I can assure you that Rhonda wouldn't stand a chance. Kayla has come down in weight BTW and I suppose that Ron could come up but, as I say, Kay is too smart for MMA so that fight won't happen, lucky Rhonda. You left out their old teammate Rick who has done passably well as an 'MMA guy'. And yeah, it is just one step above gladiatorial combat in my opinion and sad commentary on us overall.

          •  ... (0+ / 0-)

            you didn't mention boxing...

            "it is just one step above gladiatorial combat"
            really? how?
            I guess you compare it to dog fighting as well...
            two guys that AGREE to fight each other in a competitive sport that combines many combat sports into one (boxing/kickboxing/wrestling/judo/BJJ/sambo).

            "I can assure you that Rhonda wouldn't stand a chance."
            You know how many times someone has said that about a fighter, only to be dead wrong?
            Once again, just because you're great in your one discipline, DOESN'T make you a great fighter.

            •  I am not OK with boxing either on a professional (0+ / 0-)

              level. The severity of head injuries in boxing is only beginning to receive proper attention.  

              I will not go into details but, I know Kayla and Rhonda quite well and I have trained and been around fighting sports for a long time. Since it's unikely to happen that they will meet it is really not worth speculating but,I'll repete, good thing for Rhonda. Rhonda only sees MMA as a stepping stone to a film career anyway.

              I don't see MMA as dog fighting, as you point out the people have agreed to fight. I do, however, think the dogs are paid better.

        •  Actually if they did have swords they could... (0+ / 0-)

          convince promoters  and the MMA organizers to pay them more...

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