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  •  So if (hypothetically) 90% of tax evaders (4+ / 0-)
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    were Republicans, the IRS must deliberately avoid investigating some of them so that the partisan numbers balance out?  We must practice political affirmative action quotas to protect Republicans from the fact that they're greedy pieces of shit?

    Process defines product.

    by Troubadour on Sun May 19, 2013 at 07:30:26 PM PDT

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    •  What on Earth are you talking about? (1+ / 0-)
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      They looked ONKY at conservative words. The IRS admitted it. The IRS said it was wrong . Why can't you accept that? What is your point?

      •  That tax evasion is a conservative hobby. (4+ / 0-)
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        Process defines product.

        by Troubadour on Sun May 19, 2013 at 08:24:16 PM PDT

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        •  Can you please provide (1+ / 0-)
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          any  factual and cogent reason why the the most feared agency of the government should target ONLY one certain ideological group on their applications? And why you do not think another group would be targeted in a similar fashion in the future?

          Get a grip dude. This is a major no no.

          •  "Most feared agency of the government"? (5+ / 0-)

            What deranged wingnut part of the country / gated community do you live in where this is the case?

            And in what perverse, through-the-looking-glass world is it a good, moral thing that a GOP Congress that won't spend a single dime to rebuild the nation their economic policies destroyed are spending taxpayer money to fish for scamdals?  These people threatened Civil War if they were prosecuted for war crimes, and now they are the voice for Rule of Law?

            Are you that pennywise and pound foolish, that you would defend these thieving, murdering fascist pieces of reptile shit because they want to investigate the delinquent parking tickets of their opponents?  If the President had just ignored it, said everything was fine, and cited Executive Privilege when they tried to investigate - like Bush did, and like they celebrate him to this day for doing - then you might have a point.  But you don't, because this is all bullshit.

            Process defines product.

            by Troubadour on Sun May 19, 2013 at 08:41:38 PM PDT

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            •  Please answer my question (0+ / 0-)

              Ot just admit your lack of data to support your assertions.

              And yeah if you have been audited the IRS IS the most feared agency. Trust me.

              I'm not defending anyone. However I am not giving the IRS the liberty to target people based on their political persuasion. Maybe you and Nixon are cool with that.I am not. I have no idea what the rest of your incoherent rant is referring to.

              And again the cursing, do you eat with that mouth?

              •  Are you against civil rights investigations (1+ / 0-)
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                of people whose political persuasion is Neo-Nazi?

                Process defines product.

                by Troubadour on Sun May 19, 2013 at 08:59:15 PM PDT

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                •  Please answer my question n/t (0+ / 0-)
                  •  I just did. (1+ / 0-)
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                    Process defines product.

                    by Troubadour on Sun May 19, 2013 at 09:11:46 PM PDT

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                    •  No you didn't (0+ / 0-)

                      unless you can explain how asking me if I am against civl rights is answering the question about the IRS's admittedly improper actions? Give up dude.

                      •  Because I'm asking you to ethically justify (1+ / 0-)
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                        your position.  Is it or is it not improper for a civil rights enforcement institution to spend more time looking at Neo-Nazi organizations than, say, the AARP or the American Dental Association?

                        Process defines product.

                        by Troubadour on Sun May 19, 2013 at 09:18:29 PM PDT

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                        •  WTF? (0+ / 0-)

                          That is a hypothetical that has zero to do with this issue or your repeated refusal to provide data to support your lame assertions. It is a change the subject trick. but I'll indulge you. Is the IRS a civil rights enforcement institution? And who is a neo nazi organization?

                          IN both hypothetical cases the answer is of course you look at the danger of neo nazism. But that has nothing to with this debate.

                          So about that data and facts and proof you keep refusing to provide?

                          •  LOL, now you're transparent. (2+ / 0-)
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                            You can't defend your position when the ethical principle is generalized to someone other than Teahadists.  

                            The IRS is tasked with enforcement of tax laws, while the Tea Party exists to eliminate taxes and rule of law on rich people, who are already the biggest tax evaders despite being the most coddled by the tax code.  Civil rights enforcement institutions exist to ensure that people are not discriminated against by race or other legally protected bases; Neo-Nazi groups exist to promote the opposite of that mission.  Ergo, Neo-Nazi groups get more attention from civil rights enforcement institutions than is given to the AARP or the organizers of Star Trek conventions.

                            You, however, promote an ethical position that says civil rights enforcers should spend equal time looking into compliance with civil rights laws by Star Trek convention organizers as they spend investigating Neo-Nazis, because it's wrong to assume that just because someone takes a Neo-Nazi political position that they would violate civil rights laws.  That is your position, and it is not a straw man - it's actually what you're saying when applied to someone other than the Teahadists whom you apparently think need special protection from the obvious consequences of promoting tax evasion.  

                            Meanwhile you're spending time on this bullshit while every time a Republican is in the White House, or a state house, or in charge of a city police department, peace activists and civil liberties advocates are investigated as potential "terrorists."  Your priorities are batshit insane.

                            Process defines product.

                            by Troubadour on Sun May 19, 2013 at 09:50:36 PM PDT

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                          •  You are (0+ / 0-)

                            somewhere other than Earth. I answered your hypothetical question:

                            IN both hypothetical cases the answer is of course you look at the danger of neo nazism.
                            . I have asked you several specific questions you refuse to answer.

                            Unless you can quote me stop making stuff up to make you feel better.

                             I suppose it is beyond you to answer questions with anything resembling logic and facts.

                          •  Answer this (0+ / 0-)

                            the third question I ask (and don't reply with silly hypotheticals regarding the AARP and stolen cars). If, as you say repeatedly, that these groups were trying to run a scam and were more likely to be fraudulent, why, after all the unnecessary and extra scrutiny were their applications approved? According to your premise it would seem quite the opposite should have occurred.

      •  Wrong. Also looked at other groups. (3+ / 0-)
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        I'm not looking for a love that will lift me up and carry me away. A love that will stroll alongside and make a few amusing comments will suffice.

        by I love OCD on Mon May 20, 2013 at 06:16:51 AM PDT

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      •  that's because the cons are so predictable (2+ / 0-)
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        look at a list of liberal groups and try to find the common labels. the other thing that sets them apart from the con teabagger groups is most actually deserve tax breaks for actual social welfare.

        if you want to put together a list of local freedomworks chapters formed to spread political stupidity all you have to do is look for freedom, liberty, patriot, etc., like those chinese made flag pins and stickers that those chickenhawk motherfuckers who cheered us into iraq had all over their clothes and gas hogs.

        dumbass troll.

        This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

        by certainot on Mon May 20, 2013 at 07:49:14 AM PDT

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