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  •  Are you against civil rights investigations (1+ / 0-)
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    of people whose political persuasion is Neo-Nazi?

    Process defines product.

    by Troubadour on Sun May 19, 2013 at 08:59:15 PM PDT

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    •  Please answer my question n/t (0+ / 0-)
      •  I just did. (1+ / 0-)
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        Process defines product.

        by Troubadour on Sun May 19, 2013 at 09:11:46 PM PDT

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        •  No you didn't (0+ / 0-)

          unless you can explain how asking me if I am against civl rights is answering the question about the IRS's admittedly improper actions? Give up dude.

          •  Because I'm asking you to ethically justify (1+ / 0-)
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            your position.  Is it or is it not improper for a civil rights enforcement institution to spend more time looking at Neo-Nazi organizations than, say, the AARP or the American Dental Association?

            Process defines product.

            by Troubadour on Sun May 19, 2013 at 09:18:29 PM PDT

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            •  WTF? (0+ / 0-)

              That is a hypothetical that has zero to do with this issue or your repeated refusal to provide data to support your lame assertions. It is a change the subject trick. but I'll indulge you. Is the IRS a civil rights enforcement institution? And who is a neo nazi organization?

              IN both hypothetical cases the answer is of course you look at the danger of neo nazism. But that has nothing to with this debate.

              So about that data and facts and proof you keep refusing to provide?

              •  LOL, now you're transparent. (2+ / 0-)
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                You can't defend your position when the ethical principle is generalized to someone other than Teahadists.  

                The IRS is tasked with enforcement of tax laws, while the Tea Party exists to eliminate taxes and rule of law on rich people, who are already the biggest tax evaders despite being the most coddled by the tax code.  Civil rights enforcement institutions exist to ensure that people are not discriminated against by race or other legally protected bases; Neo-Nazi groups exist to promote the opposite of that mission.  Ergo, Neo-Nazi groups get more attention from civil rights enforcement institutions than is given to the AARP or the organizers of Star Trek conventions.

                You, however, promote an ethical position that says civil rights enforcers should spend equal time looking into compliance with civil rights laws by Star Trek convention organizers as they spend investigating Neo-Nazis, because it's wrong to assume that just because someone takes a Neo-Nazi political position that they would violate civil rights laws.  That is your position, and it is not a straw man - it's actually what you're saying when applied to someone other than the Teahadists whom you apparently think need special protection from the obvious consequences of promoting tax evasion.  

                Meanwhile you're spending time on this bullshit while every time a Republican is in the White House, or a state house, or in charge of a city police department, peace activists and civil liberties advocates are investigated as potential "terrorists."  Your priorities are batshit insane.

                Process defines product.

                by Troubadour on Sun May 19, 2013 at 09:50:36 PM PDT

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                •  You are (0+ / 0-)

                  somewhere other than Earth. I answered your hypothetical question:

                  IN both hypothetical cases the answer is of course you look at the danger of neo nazism.
                  . I have asked you several specific questions you refuse to answer.

                  Unless you can quote me stop making stuff up to make you feel better.

                   I suppose it is beyond you to answer questions with anything resembling logic and facts.

                •  Answer this (0+ / 0-)

                  the third question I ask (and don't reply with silly hypotheticals regarding the AARP and stolen cars). If, as you say repeatedly, that these groups were trying to run a scam and were more likely to be fraudulent, why, after all the unnecessary and extra scrutiny were their applications approved? According to your premise it would seem quite the opposite should have occurred.

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