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  •  It's not (0+ / 0-)

    "a dollar or two." It's an addiction in many poor communities that is vast and crippling. Steve Rosenfeld of AlterNet, in his recent piece on this, said that 9% of the take-home income of families making $13K or less is spent on lotteries. That's not a dollar or two.

    •  The addiction of a few should not be used to ... (1+ / 0-)
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      deprive the VAST majority that the other 91% represent.  If the numbers were reversed, you might have something, but they're not.

      "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

      by Neuroptimalian on Sun May 19, 2013 at 07:03:48 PM PDT

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    •  Well it's not your place, or mine to tell others (0+ / 0-)

      what to do with their money. Furthermore, I question that 9% figure. If people want to eat cheeseburgers at McDonald's and get fat, not my business. If people want to drink too much, not my business. If people spend too much money on shopping for shoes or clothes or video games, not my business. If someone buys a car that costs 50% of their income, not my business. I could go on and on. Frankly, its not your business either, nor is it the government's. I don't want big brother, or you telling me how best to live my life.

      "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." - John F. Kennedy -7.8., -6.6

      by helpImdrowning on Sun May 19, 2013 at 07:47:02 PM PDT

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      •  That's called (0+ / 0-)

        being "conservative." If you don't care about people in poverty, fine, you don't care.

        •  Of course we care. (1+ / 0-)
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          You'd see that if you read what many of the commenters write about it in other diaries, apart from this issue. Your repeated use of this straw man is tiresome.

          Gondwana has always been at war with Laurasia.

          by AaronInSanDiego on Sun May 19, 2013 at 09:22:18 PM PDT

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        •  I certainly care about people in poverty, however, (0+ / 0-)

          I'd bet these people you care so much about would tell you to take a hike and mind your own business if you questioned their playing the lottery to their face. Would your answer be to them that you know what is better for them than they do themselves? Don't you think that is a little arrogant, conceited, overreaching, and presumptuous?

          "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." - John F. Kennedy -7.8., -6.6

          by helpImdrowning on Sun May 19, 2013 at 10:34:41 PM PDT

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            addicts also very often tell people to take a hike and mind their business. That doesn't mean we should give up and not help them. The world would be a very different place if we gave up on helping anyone who tried refusing help. This is a game that relies on credulity, lack of education, mathematical ignorance, and propaganda that takes advantage of it all. You don't have to care about it, but I do, and so do many others.

        •  What would your solution be to save poor people (0+ / 0-)

          from themselves as you seem to see it by objecting to their buying lottery tickets with their own money?  Maybe enact laws that stipulate what they can and cannot spend their money on? Require a financial statement presented at the time of a lottery ticket purchase to ensure that certain ratios are not exceeded? Where does it all end? When would you feel comfortable that all "evil" enticements were eradicated from this scary world that preys on us all. Should we bring back prohibition so that alcoholics aren't tempted to imbibe? Ban all sweets and cheeseburgers so that fat people can lose weight and legally require them to exercise? Make looking attractive illegal so that sex addicts aren't tempted? Micro chip our children so we always know where they are? Hell, never let your kids out of your sight, 24/7, go with them everywhere and carry a hanky to blow their nose until they are 21 years old.

          At some point people have to be allowed to make their own decisions and their own mistakes. You cannot go around protecting everyone all of the time, especially from themselves.

          "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." - John F. Kennedy -7.8., -6.6

          by helpImdrowning on Sun May 19, 2013 at 10:50:26 PM PDT

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