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  •  emptywheel makes more sense than Pincus: (3+ / 0-)
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    So the government rolled up the plot in April — almost certainly by April 24 — and then the AP came to the CIA and White House with their story about a foiled plot on May 2.

    It’s that timing that undermines the claim that the government still hoped to use the mole to get at Ibrahim al-Asiri. Because to maintain that claim, you’d have to explain how an AQAP operative who had been entrusted with the latest version of Ibrahim al-Asiri’s UndieBomb sometime in early April, had left (at least as far as Sanaa), had not apparently succeeded in his mission (which was, after all, meant to be a suicide bombing), could return to AQAP without the UndieBomb and infiltrate even further than he had the first time.

    “Oh, hi, AQAP gatekeeper” — their story must imagine the mole saying as he returned to AQAP — “I’ve both failed in my mission and somehow lost the bomb you gave me, but based on that would you be willing to let me spend some quality time with even higher-ranking AQAP operatives?”

    The government must believe AQAP has far worse counterintelligence than Asiri’s longevity would seem to suggest. Alternately, they’re just inventing stories right now to justify their seizure.

    The Laughable Currently Operative AP Pushback Story
    •  That raises questions I can't answer (0+ / 0-)

      What to do when the only answers to questions would involve exposing more secrets?

      But nobody on the outside will ever know the entire story. I'm likely as concerned about a shadow government as most who worry about such things. Iran-Contra exposed how such things can happen. The intelligence community controls the flow of information to the president and therefore controls policy. Some suggest that complete transparency is the answer. While I don't agree, I also don't have an answer.

      Getting back to the current issues and the role of the press I think motives are important to consider if we are to reach any level of understanding. Those who leaked intel apparently were not motivated by conscience. We're not talking about the Pentagon Papers. I've seen no indication the government was involved in any activity that needed to be exposed. The news organizations are apparently motivated by the desire for a competitive edge. If money is the value they acknowledge we have greater problems in our society than the issues before us today.

      Others have simply gotten old. I prefer to think I've been tempered by time.

      by Just Bob on Tue May 21, 2013 at 11:20:35 PM PDT

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