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  •  I use a twenty- or thirty-round magazine... (3+ / 0-)
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    ...in a civilian-AK when hunting wild hogs -- sounders can easily be larger than thirty animals, and the intent there is to lower the numbers overall, not harvest for food.  Personally, I lean towards the twenty-round, the thirty- is a bit bulky for regular carry.

    So, there is an example of a logical use for such a magazine, just as you asked for.

    Of course, I've never seen a compelling reason to limit any Civil Right based on need -- it is a right, whether one person considers it a need or not.  Where does it say that a lack of a need renders a Civil Right moot...?

    I mean, you don't need to be able to express your opinion, that's why you elect people, to do that for you.  You don't need to be able to engage in the religion of your choice, it's not necessary for survival.  Such a list could go on for quite some time.

    Oddly, though, you rarely see people making the need argument about those Civil Rights -- at least, not in Democratic, Liberal, or Progressive circles.

    One would almost think, then, that bringing need into such a discussion is both irrelevant and more than a little hypocritical.

    Yes, I often dress as a pirate. Your point?

    by theatre goon on Tue May 21, 2013 at 03:43:48 PM PDT

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    •  getting rid of hogs... (0+ / 0-)

      ...is more varmit control than actual "hunting."  But, granted, a bigger magazine might be useful for that.  But, you can also bring extra clips.

      Since you've got answers, what's your solution to lessening some of the civilian deaths we've been seeing because of these weapons?  I mean, I'm a gun owner, I like guns, but I do see some reasons for gun control.  If you want less, then it's gonna be part of your responsibility to come up with some fucking solutions, too.  I'm tired of just hearing about people's "rights" when kids are getting gunned down because complete assholes are getting these things along with the pig-hunters.  So, if you're against hypocrisy, how 'bout addressing some of that, too?   Maybe the solutions I've got aren't perfect, but I'm not hearing any better ones, so until I do, let's just have an impasse, shall we?

      "Glenn Beck ends up looking like a fat, stupid child. His face should be wearing a chef's hat on the side of a box of eclairs. " - Doug Stanhope

      by Front Toward Enemy on Wed May 22, 2013 at 07:47:52 AM PDT

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      •  Meh. (0+ / 0-)

        Once you attribute to me a stance that I do not take:

        If you want less...
        ...I lose much interest in trying to converse with you.

        At no point did I ever say anything about wanting less regulation.  

        That being the case, if you wish to attribute arguments to me that I haven't made, then there's no point in me engaging with you.  It seems as though you'll be able to carry on both sides of the discussion on your own.

        Now, if you want to discuss what I really said -- oh, wait, you don't want to hear about rights.  Nevermind, then.

        Yes, I often dress as a pirate. Your point?

        by theatre goon on Wed May 22, 2013 at 12:29:41 PM PDT

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        •  so, basically... (0+ / 0-)

          ... you have no ideas about solving the problem, and all you want to talk about is "rights."

          Don't have much interest in conversing with you either, then.

          "Glenn Beck ends up looking like a fat, stupid child. His face should be wearing a chef's hat on the side of a box of eclairs. " - Doug Stanhope

          by Front Toward Enemy on Wed May 22, 2013 at 07:03:27 PM PDT

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          •  Not at all. (2+ / 0-)
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            I have plenty of ideas, which I have been known to discuss at some length.

            The problem is that, once you have attributed to me an argument that I have not made, then you have shown that you are not interested in meaningful discussion.

            It is a dishonest tactic, and brings to an end any real debate.

            Further, just because you don't want to consider rights, that does not make them suddenly no longer a part of the discussion -- it only means that you don't want to discuss an integral part of the actual discussion at hand.

            Once again, this brings to an end any real debate.

            It's not particularly difficult stuff, here.

            Yes, I often dress as a pirate. Your point?

            by theatre goon on Thu May 23, 2013 at 04:00:12 AM PDT

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